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Dreamtime
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31 of 48  Tue 11th Apr 2017 12:20pm  
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Great OL, there it was GONE Thumbs up
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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32 of 48  Wed 19th Apr 2017 12:11pm  
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On 5th Apr 2017 8:18pm, NeilsYard said: Yippee!
Here you are, Neil Cheers
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Dreamtime
Perth Western Australia
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33 of 48  Wed 19th Apr 2017 2:38pm  
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Now, that's more like it!!!!!!! Thumbs up
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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34 of 48  Thu 20th Apr 2017 12:42pm  
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War wounds? Oh my I hadn't realised just how many marks there are on the walls of The Council House - this is just one small area
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Dreamtime
Perth Western Australia
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35 of 48  Thu 20th Apr 2017 2:02pm  
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Very observant of you MR. I have a feeling you may have disturbed a hornet's nest. I wonder how many more older buildings in Coventry have the same apart from the wounds on the old cathedral.
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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36 of 48  Fri 21st Apr 2017 8:53am  
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Yes, looking at the Council House and then Herberts I know which I prefer. What say you?
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flapdoodle
Coventry
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37 of 48  Sat 22nd Apr 2017 6:23pm  
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I like them both. The building between them seems oddly small and makes a poor link between the two buildings, in my opinion, and the East End of the Herbert has been ruined by Coventry University's new building. The whole street is a disjointed. The Herbert has potential for a decent public space outside it, but is underused, like most of Coventry's squares. The Town hall is nothing special. A fairly modest Mock Tudor building that fitted in at the time due its location. (And it seems a little awkwardly positioned as well). You are allowed to like old and new buildings, you know. The post-war architects moved away from copying medieval buildings and had new materials and new technology to use, not to mention lack of finances and shortages of materials.
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NeilsYard
Coventry
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38 of 48  Sun 20th Aug 2017 10:27pm  
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The foundations go up for the 'new' Council House in 1915.
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Helen F
Warrington
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39 of 48  Sun 20th Aug 2017 10:45pm  
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Nice picture Neil. Now go back in time and ask them to photo the plot before they knocked the houses down. Lol
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NeilsYard
Coventry
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40 of 48  Mon 21st Aug 2017 3:39am  
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I keep searching Helen! It's funny in the Earl Street thread the only images are with that gap and not before. Here's the laying of the foundation stone in 1913
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Helen F
Warrington
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41 of 48  Mon 21st Aug 2017 7:54am  
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That's a photo I've never seen before. I think the reason that there doesn't seem to be a before picture is because the demolition took so long. One section was demolished early enough for a small park to be laid over the plots. I'd be surprised if Wingrave never took a photo, especially of the St Mary Street end but none seem to have survived. There may be one in some collection, with nobody able to work out where it is. The same goes for the other side of the road in the same area.
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coventry49
Devon
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42 of 48  Mon 21st Aug 2017 8:12am  
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In the first picture Neil, what is the old building at the rear of the site with leaded windows. Is it the back of St Mary's Hall and to the left 22 Bailey Lane?
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Malvern
Somerset
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43 of 48  Mon 21st Aug 2017 5:28pm  
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"In the first picture Neil, what is the old building at the rear of the site with leaded windows. Is it the back of St Mary's Hall and to the left 22 Bailey Lane?" Comparing with Google maps and the 1897 insurance plan. I believe the buildings behind are all part of St Mary's Hall. 22 Bayley Lane would be to the left of the picture but is not quite visible. To the right of the crane you can just make out Drapers Hall and the row of buildings on the east side of St Mary Street. These buildings are now the Grass Area between St Mary Street and Bayley Lane and The Herbert. My ancestors lived at 3 or 4 Bailey Lane in the mid 1800s (which is now the other side of that grass area facing onto Bayley Lane!) Edited by member, 21st Aug 2017 5:33 pm
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Helen F
Warrington
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44 of 48  Mon 21st Aug 2017 5:57pm  
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Close Malvern but I think from left to right. Caesar's Tower, St Mary's kitchen, some later building with a gothic window that I think was part of the kitchen too, the police station and then I think it's the middle of St Mary's Street on the right. I think that most of that end of Bayley lane was 3 storey or above and wasn't demolished until after the Council house was built.
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Malvern
Somerset
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45 of 48  Mon 21st Aug 2017 6:33pm  
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I think I agree Helen, The 1897 insurance plan describes the whole area as St Mary's Hall with from left to right. A brick arched bast (the Hall itself) then the Police Offices with the court behind and the Muniment Room at the rear. in 1897 the side facing onto St Mary's Street was under construction and included Cells and concrete floors, but the Fire Engine House further up St Mary's Street towards Earl Street was already in existence but seems to have gone by the time this photo was taken. Drapers Hall is mostly obscured by the crane then the buildings visible on right, which you correctly state are half way along St Mary's Street, are described as vacant, with a silk warehouse and then G Carey Franklin Ribbon Factory on the corner of Earl Street and St Mary's Street. The warehouse and factory would have been to the right of this photo. I have details from the Coventry Standard 23 July 1864 regarding the sale of 23 Earl Street and 3 and 4 Bailey Lane. The freeholds were sold following the death of Harry Chetham. At the time 23 Earl Street, which was to the right of the above ribbon factory which occupied 19 to 22 Earl Street, was let to Mr Goodfellow at a "low" rent of £60 per annum. The property included a ribbon warehouse to the rear which then connected through to 3 and 4 Bailey Lane which was let to my ancestor, Thomas Carvell and Charles Clarke at "rents producing £21 per annum, exclusive of rates" So my ancestors house would have been to the rear of the buildings seen on the right of the picture. Edited by member, 21st Aug 2017 6:35 pm
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