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76 of 92  Tue 30th Oct 2018 4:51pm  
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Yes, there is one on each side Thumbs up
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Annewiggy
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77 of 92  Tue 30th Oct 2018 5:49pm  
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Thanks MR. It wasn’t there in 1914
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78 of 92  Tue 30th Oct 2018 6:57pm  
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Early pictures before the crenulation don’t seem to have anything. But after it was crenulated there appears to be a plain spout showing. Would this be to drain the roof as rain would probably collect. The 1918 picture in my previous post seems to be lacking the crenulation again so perhaps why no spout. When it was repaired again I presume they would have needed the spouting again and so someone decided to do something a bit fancier !
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Prof
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79 of 92  Sat 12th Jan 2019 12:13pm  
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Post copied from topic Hales Street on 12th Jan 2019 1:28 pm
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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80 of 92  Sat 12th Jan 2019 1:38pm  
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On 12th Jan 2019 12:13pm, Prof said:
Prof. See post #9 for a modern day view Thumbs up
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Prof
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81 of 92  Sat 12th Jan 2019 5:17pm  
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Thanks MR the comparisons are great!
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Helen F
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82 of 92  Fri 10th May 2019 3:41pm  
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On 8th May 2019 11:44am, NeilsYard said:
The Sherbourne appears in so many of Coventry's scenes. It's neatly contained by what looks a lot like reused city wall. Post copied from topic GEC Spon Street on 14th May 2019 10:04 pm
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NeilsYard
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83 of 92  Mon 13th May 2019 10:17am  
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Helen. I've always wondered if all that sandstone that lines the walls around Barras Lane area was ex City Wall? Edited by member, 14th May 2019 10:34 am
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Helen F
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84 of 92  Tue 14th May 2019 7:45pm  
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I've wondered the same. There was still a lot of city wall left in 1750, although I'm not sure how much was surfaced in fine blocks. By the early 1800s people were spreading out of the original areas and potentially a lot of stone was still available for those with money. Owners of the wall may have been keen to get rid of walls because they acted as a significant barrier to development. Images of the wall show substantial sections. The Spon Bridge and raised causeway connecting it to the higher ground was supposed to be made out of the remains of the Spon gate and the Cross in 1771. Alternatively they may have still been working some of the original quarries - one in the Cheylesmore Park and one at Spon End. Edited by member, 14th May 2019 7:45 pm
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Prof
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85 of 92  Tue 14th May 2019 9:43pm  
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I've always thought the same, NeilsYard.
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Kaga simpson
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86 of 92  Wed 15th May 2019 5:48pm  
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The Coventry and Nuneaton railway was constructed in the year 1848-9 and the bridge at Spon End fell down in January 1857. The bridge had been unsafe for some time, was of red sandstone, and the spotlight fell on the contractor - when he was approached about the safety of the bridge and arches, he replied that they would last as long as he lived, and he died the day before they fell down. This I suppose was the best prophecy heard in Coventry for many a year. The new arches were made of blue brick. Some of the oldest deeds of property adjoining Spon Street abutting the Sherbourne gave the owners the right to fish for pike, perch and trout. The word Spon was probably the span or stretch of ground between the town and the old Hospital of Lepers.
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Kaga simpson
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87 of 92  Wed 15th May 2019 7:02pm  
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The neighbourhood of Swanswell and Hillfields greatly changed at the beginning of the 19th century. A new road from Cook Street to Red Lane, and many streets that connected with it, was almost a new town. A centuries old mill stood at the bottom of Cox Street, foundation stones and timber had to be hauled from long distances to build it. There was a house outside the town walls near Mill Lane Gate, a trackway extended outside the walls to Swanswell Pool, which was known as 'Catchem's Corner', the junction of Primrose Hill Street and Swanswell Street. In 1830 Paynes Lane was only a minor road, hardly passable. A cart track with great ruts stretched from there to Harnall Brook towards the town. For centuries like this, marshy ground, a few houses stood but not being made, its surface was in such deplorable condition that the miller's wagon got stuck in the ruts up to its hubs. Life was hard in those days.
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Helen F
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88 of 92  Tue 11th Jun 2019 10:58am  
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I have expounded my theory that the Cook Street Gate never had round towers as appears on the Hollar view of the north prospect. At the Beake talk the other day I found out that Hollar didn't do the original sketches, which ties in with my theory that the final version misinterpreted a corner tower and the Cook Street gate in line as one structure.
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Annewiggy
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89 of 92  Tue 11th Jun 2019 12:49pm  
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Hi Helen, I am glad you are finding evidence about the round towers. I have just looked at a couple of books I have with pictures of the gates and it is a vert square tower illustrated by other artists. Kaga, I have just read your interesting post in May which I must have missed while we were on holiday with no wifi. The mill and mill gate at the end of Cox Street, which was previously Mill Lane was known as the Bastille Gate. The gate was occupied by my ancestor John Yardley who was mayor in 1689 and his father was a miller in the 16th century. There is an article on here somewhere that I wrote a few years ago called 400 years of Yardleys in Coventry giving a bit of information about the gate and the mill. You can find it if you search on Google.
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Helen F
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90 of 92  Tue 11th Jun 2019 1:28pm  
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Another snippet that pricked my interest was a comment about a Yardley fined by Beake for grinding corn on the Sabbath. Beake's diary had a lot of details of sinners, rather than what we'd consider crimes today. We'd make the guy faint... well I would. Twisted There were a few round towers in the wall circuit but the 1610 map doesn't show any at Cook Street, so it was unlikely that two would be built in the ensuing time period to what is a very minor gateway. The Spon Gate, Greyfriars Gate and the Newgate were the exceptions (I'm not sure when Newgate lost those towers). The only other gate that looks like it had something like towers is the Gosford gate/St George's Hall, which might have had towers on the north edge, or they may have been stairwell turrets. Several of the towers, like the Bastille gate seemed taller but some of that height was due to post defensive additions, when they were turned into homes.
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