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pixrobin
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211 of 242  Sun 20th Sep 2020 1:20pm  
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I was reading in Forbes that scientists are thinking about what may have caused the Big Bang. Any thoughts?

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Heathite
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212 of 242  Sun 20th Sep 2020 2:00pm  
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Scientists who promote that theory have limited knowledge. In my understanding one has to understand or consider the Nature of Reality. Namely, it is causeless, self-effulgent, changeless and eternal. It is outside of time, or 'time exists within it'. The world, which is a phenomena projected on the 'screen of Reality' is not real using the above criteria. The witness of the world is real, and that is where attention ought to be directed to discover real answers. In short "The world has no subjective reality".
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Heathite
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213 of 242  Sun 20th Sep 2020 5:40pm  
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Jupiter taken from the Hubble telescope.
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PhilipInCoventry
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214 of 242  Sun 20th Sep 2020 9:45pm  
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Hi all, In trying to understand the nature of matter, with all the whys & wherefores, I can't. I can only draw on my experience over seventy years of pondering. When I started my career in accounting, a senior auditor who I was training under, told me amongst other things, to look at the structure of the accounting system, to see if it is based on accurate records, or a target. A target is where a model is created, then supports are either drawn or stitched to hold it up or together. More than ever in my lifetime, the last two decades I have seen the most calamitous corporate scandals, the one thing in common are the stitched up accounts. So many of the unknown sciences, start from theorems, then supported by evidence or further theorems as technology permits. Without me trying to understand the start of the universe, which I can't, I can look at some of the evidence. If it was all crystal clear, all educated scientists would agree with whatever, but the fact is that they dont. Some cannot even agree on the basic measurement tool of carbon 14 dating. For example, the oldest tree ring dating, which is universally agreed upon, varies so widely from the carbon 14 dating of the same sample. Yet it is just brushed over & ignored. If modern science is so accurate, how come the pandemic has us caught us with our pants down! So, I remain as sceptical as ever. One of the prime tasks of a financial audit, is to separate fact from fiction, then see how it stacks up. If only I was clever.
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JohnnieWalker
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215 of 242  Sun 20th Sep 2020 9:49pm  
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On 20th Sep 2020 1:20pm, pixrobin said: I was reading in Forbes that scientists are thinking about what may have caused the Big Bang. Any thoughts?
In the past year or so, scientists have recorded what they say is the "sound" of the Big Bang.... In the Beginning……. We humans thirst for knowledge – well, some of us, at least! From white-coat men of science to the mystics of the East. We observe what is around us, make some sense of what we see. A prime example being Einstein’s Relativity. Albert Einstein was a genius, and his theories shed new light On how the universe was formed – the Big Bang in the night! Who would have thought, for instance, that a moving clock ticks slow, And gravity can change the way we see a light beams’ glow. But subsequently each and every one of these ideas Has been proven to be fact – the world is not as it appears! Creationists, it must be said, still won’t admit he’s right, And quote from ancient documents to prove that God is Light. But scientific method is remorseless in its quest, And labs all round the world compete to find out who’s the best. Just picture those great scientists, how excited would they be To find themselves observing waves of Big Bang gravity! A fraction of a second after that Big Bang took place, The universe inflated at a meteoric pace. Gravitation was created that has rippled through to us. The evidence has now become quite unambiguous. But what, enquiring minds will ask, preceded these events? Debate about this question is exceedingly intense. A Nobel Prize awaits the one that solves the mystery Of what provoked that key event in cosmic history. Now confident that they’d find out what really had occurred, With bated breath, they played the tape, and this is what they heard……… A still small voice says, through the phones, not loud, but very clear, “I wonder what will happen if I press this button here……………..” BANG!!!!!!!!!! Edited by member, 21st Sep 2020 1:38 am
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Dreamtime
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216 of 242  Mon 21st Sep 2020 7:08am  
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EXCELLENT JW, Thumbs up Hope you have another volume in the pipeline Wave
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Rob Orland
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217 of 242  Mon 21st Sep 2020 9:50am  
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On 20th Sep 2020 2:00pm, Heathite said: Scientists who promote that theory have limited knowledge. In my understanding one has to understand or consider the Nature of Reality. Namely, it is causeless, self-effulgent, changeless and eternal. It is outside of time, or 'time exists within it'. The world, which is a phenomena projected on the 'screen of Reality' is not real using the above criteria. The witness of the world is real, and that is where attention ought to be directed to discover real answers. In short "The world has no subjective reality".
Brilliant, you could be right!! When my wife and I walked out of the cinema after watching The Matrix over 20 years ago, what you said above pretty much explains the exact feeling we both had!
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PhilipInCoventry
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218 of 242  Tue 22nd Sep 2020 11:06am  
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Galaxies like the one that we live in all vary in shape, but if we were to be a planet in the Andromeda galaxy, looking at where we live in, using a powerful telescope, we might see something similar, to the Andromeda galaxy that we can see. Such a sight does make me feel so small. All of the stars that we see in our sky at night, are all part of our own galaxy. Millions of them, separated by distances that can only really be understood by mathematicians. I can't! Yet, seeing Andromeda, which is another complete star system, further away & there are millions of them, my mind simply runs dry.
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PhilipInCoventry
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219 of 242  Wed 23rd Sep 2020 11:19am  
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I fell asleep on the couch after watching a lecture, then a documentary on the subject of dark matter & dark energy. I'm just waiting for the white van to arrive! Whilst my mathematics stops at practical levels, no way can I comprehend theoretical formulas, like the general theory of relativity, or the special theory of Einstein. I can though picture the term relativity. I can see the relevance of what we see, that is relative to where we are & what we are doing. That it might not be the same as what you or anyone else can see. That's as far as my mind will go.
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PhilipInCoventry
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220 of 242  Wed 23rd Sep 2020 11:26am  
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What I am aware of is that Gravity is a huge force that affects everything that we can see, touch, or feel. It can bend light, along with everything in the Electromagnetic spectrum. So, depending on where you & I are, or doing we can see it at different speeds & so on. Time itself doesn't change, accept that our perception of it does. I hope I have that correct.
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PhilipInCoventry
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221 of 242  Wed 23rd Sep 2020 11:54am  
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Dark Energy Lecture Lecture, documentary
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PhilipInCoventry
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222 of 242  Wed 23rd Sep 2020 12:19pm  
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Illusion. You’re sat on a train at Coventry station. You’re next to a train in the adjacent platform, both are stationary. Everyone sees the same scenario, no matter what train or sat on the platform. If there is no jerk, one train starts to move. Sometimes, I can't tell which is moving. Once out of the station it's obviously your train, you can see clearly out of the window. Someone on the train walks by. How fast are they travelling? Nearly one mile an hour for you, but maybe sixty miles an hour if you were watching from the platform of the next station that the train doesn't stop at.
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PhilipInCoventry
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223 of 242  Wed 23rd Sep 2020 12:33pm  
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Most of us can see the logic of that, sat on the train. What blows my mind is the concept that as we travel, the direction that we travel in, we reduce in size, to the point of the speed of light, when we become zero. We all experience high speed velocity fluctuations. The earth spinning is such that a man at the equator is travelling at 18 miles per second, relative to the earth, but since the earth is itself travelling around the sun, that value changes to anyone viewing from Mars, depending on the axis spin, which half of the time is contra to the earth orbit, the other half is much faster. Can someone pass the port, please!
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Midland Red
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224 of 242  Wed 23rd Sep 2020 2:03pm  
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Sounds like you’ve been at the port already, my good friend Lol Lol Lol
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Midland Red
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225 of 242  Wed 23rd Sep 2020 2:04pm  
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This may help you, Philip Thumbs up
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