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steelbreeze
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211 of 219  Fri 30th Jun 2017 11:21am  
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I will be in Coventry tomorrow for a Bablake 80s reunion (1980s, I'm not yet in my eighties) so I will swing by the Herbert whilst I'm in town and see if they have anything. Thanks for the PDF, looks like a fascinating read.
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NeilsYard
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212 of 219  Sat 1st Jul 2017 9:55am  
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I think we've touched on this before but wasn't the original plan for the RR to route south of the station - but was quickly amended when they realised several Councillor's houses would have to be bulldozed! Oh my
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Rob Orland
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213 of 219  Sat 1st Jul 2017 12:17pm  
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Oh, why does that not surprise me! Wink And here was me thinking it might be because of all the logistical difficulties bridging over the railway! Lol
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flapdoodle
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214 of 219  Sat 1st Jul 2017 10:35pm  
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That story of the ring road being canned because of the councillors is probably an urban myth (designed to make the council look bad) and that website is factually incorrect about the 'modelling' that was done. The current kink was modelled to see it was safe by using Fortran programs. Quite an innovation at the time. The ring road's route was given permission in the late 1940s, but not started for some years and the route was pretty much the route planned in the 1940s. The main change was that it went from a surface level road to grade separated (around 1960), despite warnings about the problems it would cause for the city. As it was originally a surface level road, the fact the station was outside was not an issue, it was only the grade separation and complex junctions that made it physically separated and accessed by tunnels and bridges. A quick glance at a map would show how a road that encircles the station would have had to cross the railway twice (perhaps the junctions) and would have had to be run through housing and factories. Instead, it followed the route of an existing road. Edited by member, 1st Jul 2017 10:37 pm
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NeilsYard
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215 of 219  Sun 2nd Jul 2017 11:41am  
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Interesting Flap, thanks for the info Thumbs up I've never been a fan of what the RR did as far as the clearance of land to build, however it does work well. I actually had to look up what grade separation was Happy It would have looked nicer as surface level but suppose it would have not been as effective as well.
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flapdoodle
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216 of 219  Sun 2nd Jul 2017 12:20pm  
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I believe this site has a copy of the original layout from around 1945. Not only would it have looked nicer, it would not have contributed to the city centre's decline. I've seen it written a few times that other towns and cities used Coventry's mistakes to avoid making their own! Lol Edited by member, 2nd Jul 2017 12:22 pm
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steelbreeze
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217 of 219  Tue 4th Jul 2017 10:41am  
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Was there a link in there? I don't see it! Drew a blank on Saturday, the records bit was closed and I won't be able to get into Coventry again (when it's open) until the 22nd. Having lived in Wolverhampton, I can tell you that where the ringroad is level, it regularly gridlocks in rush hour. Coventry RR, though ugly, does work! Which is more than I can say for Malfunction Junction this morning, where the temporary lights have packed up. Oh joy! Think I'll take the M6 tomorrow, at least I won't have to cross a dangerous junction on red. Angry
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AD
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218 of 219  Fri 7th Jul 2017 4:18pm  
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Malfunction Junction is a pain at the mo, and I don't think these changes will improve it at all. Still think Broad Lane was better before they reinstated the stupid island. With the ring road, the trunk roads (which IMO should be classified as part of the ring road system because you can't use the RR without them) back up for MILES at rush hour and move pretty slowly. Western side you see traffic spilling off the slip roads back onto the carriageways making the ballet of getting on/off even more complicated than normal). So for all the few minutes you make up there you lose elsewhere unless your start and destination are very close to the ring road itself. When you take into account all the problems it creates for the city centre in terms of lost foot traffic and just avoidance of the area in general by potential visitors (not to mention the look of it!) an at-grade RR with upgraded/expanded trunk roads would be a much better solution. Also separate roads for getting onto the RR and entering the city centre rather than them all doing both. Also Coventry is a very decentralised city - much of the stuff is in business/retail parks on the outskirts. The city centre is much more like a small town centre and if it was used as much as a city the size of Coventry should be, the RR wouldn't cope.
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JCoker
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219 of 219  Mon 10th Jul 2017 1:44pm  
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My Dad, Patrick Coker, worked for Gallifords and was site manager for 5 out of the six stages. He wanted to complete stage 6, but had to move into the Wolvey office. When he left the site they gave him a road sign 'Patricks Rd'. The RR was an impressive engineering project for it's time, and it gave 'Gallys' a high profile. That was the zeitgeist, modern, cars and development. Certainly Dad thought new was good, old was bad. Dad was from Holbrooks and was always very proud of his part in the construction of the RR. Everytime we would go from Hinckley to watch the City, he would always manage to use the RR, tell us (the same) stories of it's construction. While the RR did destroy part of the city, the idea was sound. It was a shame the old city was not rebuilt, and pedestrianised. Imagine that Old Cov, bypassed by cars with parking where you could take a tram into the center. The Blitz was only part of the destruction, the Town Planners were much worse. If I had a few million..... I don't think the decline of city center shopping is totally the fault of the RR, it was booming in the 70's. At the Sky Blues we used to bump into alot of the blokes who worked with Dad, one (Seamus ?McCafferty?) always used to slip me & my bro' a fiver - big money in those days ! He's probably dead by now, but I always wanted to buy him a beer. There was ALOT of money in Cov in those days.
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