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Greg
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1 of 15  Tue 7th Jan 2014 6:28pm  
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Just thought I'd post this as a new subject as I previously put the picture on as part of a 'quiz' and I couldn't remember the name of the tree. My wife bought me an excellent local history book for Christmas and this tree and its supposed history had its own little section. It is still in situ but is due to be 'pruned' any day.
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Prof
Gloucester
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2 of 15  Sun 7th Sep 2014 8:30pm  
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Thank you Greg, as a Stoke boy who has known about Jabet's Ash from an early age, it is nice to see it once more. Historically, of course, this is where royalty or notable visitors to the city would be welcomed by the mayor and led into the city at Gosford Gate. One of this was the Princess Elizabeth (Winter Queen of Bohemia) who was living at Coombe Abbey at the time of the Gunpowder Plot and was rushed within the city walls for safety when news of the plot broke.
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Greg
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3 of 15  Sun 7th Sep 2014 9:13pm  
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Thanks Prof. Sadly there is no longer a plaque at the base to say what it is. Do you remember a plaque on the wall at the back of Stoke Green giving the history of horse racing there? Sadly this has also gone `missing`.
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Prof
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4 of 15  Sun 7th Sep 2014 9:37pm  
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No Greg I did not know about the plaque on Stoke Green you mentioned. I well recall the plaque (metal) at the foot of Jabet's Ash. Why ever has no-one bothered to replace it? Stoke Green a conservation area as well! Edited by member, 7th Sep 2014 9:37 pm
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Greg
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5 of 15  Sun 7th Sep 2014 11:53pm  
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I`m very much afraid that, from where I am looking, more and more of our real heritage is disappearing bit by bit. Edited by member, 8th Sep 2014 12:07 am
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Prof
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6 of 15  Mon 8th Sep 2014 8:19am  
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Greg - when you say the back of Stoke Green, do you mean on the wall fencing off Stoke Park perhaps somewhere near the pillars of the non-existent gates? Though I do not remember that plaque I imagine that is where it would have been, rather than across the Binley Road.
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Greg
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7 of 15  Mon 8th Sep 2014 6:46pm  
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The wall is at the back of the green alongside the Binley Road between South Avenue and Brays Lane.
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Prof
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8 of 15  Tue 9th Sep 2014 7:03pm  
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Thank you Greg, that's exactly where I thought it would be. I started school at Stoke National and two sisters (only remember one Christian name) Priscilla Chisholm lived at the house which seemed to be the gate-keeper's lodge at the entrance to South Avenue, Stoke Park.
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Prof
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9 of 15  Fri 6th Oct 2017 10:12am  
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Does the history book relate who "Jabet" was?
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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10 of 15  Fri 6th Oct 2017 11:46am  
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There wasn't a "Jabet" - it is reckoned that the name comes from it (the original tree) being used as a gibbet for hanging criminals (gibbet ash) Thumbs up
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Prof
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11 of 15  Fri 6th Oct 2017 11:59am  
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Thanks for that Midland Red, I had no idea. By chance, Greg,if you are a 'Stoke' boy, did you attend Stoke National school as I did and my father and his twin sister before me? Edited by member, 6th Oct 2017 2:50 pm
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Helen F
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12 of 15  Fri 6th Oct 2017 1:40pm  
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I've just thought about why they use 'hanged' and opposed to 'hung' when talking about execution. A person could be both hanged (with a rope) and hung (in a gibbet). Or one without the other. It's distinction that would have had relevance in the past.
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Prof
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13 of 15  Fri 6th Oct 2017 2:48pm  
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Quite right Helen and in Coventry we have both Gibbet Hill and Wainbody Avenue!
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Annewiggy
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14 of 15  Fri 6th Oct 2017 3:32pm  
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This is an article from the Warwick & Warwickshire advertiser 1925. The old tree was taken down in 1915 as it had become dangerous. JABETS ASH.” The offer of Mr.. Whiteman, of Binley Road, Coventry, to present to the city a piece of land, adjacent to the site of Jabet’s Ash, there being planted the land a young ash grown from cutting taken from that ancient tree, was accepted the Coventry City Council Tuesday, and the Deputy-Mayor (Alderman W. H. Grant) expressing the city thanks, gave some interesting details of the historic tree which stood for centuries in Binley road, but which with the development of the district has now disappeared. , “Jabet’s Ash,” Alderman Grant explained, stood on a spot which now marked the corner of Binley-road and Marlborough road, a tree with the story of thousand years behind it. The origin of the name might doubtful. Some thought that it had something to do with a gibbet, but some associated it with the Coventry Prior. Joubert, or as the name was spelt in some the old records. Joibertus, who was Prior of Coventry towards the close of the twelfth century. The ancient tree marked the boundary between the county and the city, where the Mayors, Aldermen, and Councillors in their scarlet and blue robes went to meet the Royal persons who came to the city from that direction. The tree was mentioned Dugdale, and loomed largely in the documents now in the muniment room at St. Mary s Hall. The old tree, rich in historical associations, was taken down because it was reported to unsafe, and the sapling which the city was now asked to accept was taken from it by Mr. Whiteman, who not only gave the tree and the site but expressed his willingness to enclose the land at his own expense.
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Prof
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15 of 15  Fri 6th Oct 2017 6:37pm  
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A great piece of history Annewiggy. Thanks a lot. This clarifies what we merely hinted at.
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