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mrsdp
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1 of 7  Tue 8th Nov 2011 3:59pm  
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Hi everyone I am related to William (Bill) Cashmore from Foleshill. Apparently he used to have a fruit and veg shop (or an ironmongers shop - some discrepancy here!) I cannot trace him at all but I did come across a murder that occurred in 1890 at the above pub (closed down in 1967). William Cashmore was stabbed by Albert Kirk. It's probably a very miniscule needle in a massive haystack but I would be interested to hear more of this murder. Any of you got any juicy gems on it?! Thanks everyone!
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dutchman
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2 of 7  Tue 8th Nov 2011 5:09pm  
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There's oddly no mention of the murder in John Ashby's book but here is a picture of the pub taken shortly before it was demolished. The picture was taken from what is now the walkway behind 'Trafalgar House' looking towards the junction of Trafalgar Street and Hope Street.
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3 of 7  Tue 8th Nov 2011 9:06pm  
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dutchman
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4 of 7  Tue 8th Nov 2011 11:42pm  
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morgana
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the vocalists
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6 of 7  Wed 24th Sep 2014 10:01pm  
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Hi Morgana The William Cashmore you refer to in the "Trafalgar Arms" stabbing was in fact a former player and trainer of Singers Football Club. He lived in the Hillfields district of Coventry and is a different William Cashmore to your ancestor. There were plenty of Cashmore families living in Coventry at this time. The one involved in the pub incident had family connections to Birmingham. The stabbing was a major incident at the time. The Trafalgar Arms was a well-known "Rudge" pub and Singers were from the other side of town, so to speak. Footballers from Singers F.C. were the victims of an attack by two members of the Rudge Football Club committee, notably Albert Edward Kirk and William Lawrenson. At first the incident was reported as football violence, inferring fierce rivalry between Rudge and Singers. Respected football correspondent George Maley, who had close links to both the clubs mentioned, later found out the incident was prompted by a family feud and related to family disagreements. Cashmore sustained five stab wounds and remained in hospital for five days. Kirk was arrested but magistrates later decided there was insufficient evidence to take the case to trial. Kirk was released without charge. The whole incident cast a murky shadow over the reputation of both clubs. It put further strain on the relationship between Coventry's two leading clubs who at the time, had suspended fixtures between themselves. Thankfully, this was rectified a few months later. Hope this helps.
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morgana
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7 of 7  Wed 24th Sep 2014 10:40pm  
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Thank you The Vocalist for letting me know it was no relation to Cashmore s in Foleshill. I was not their relation it was Mrsdp relation to whom I was asking lived in Foleshill, which is above my question. We copy parts of members thread quote and reply to whom we are asking or replying to, so other s dont get confused and that certain member knows we are chatting to them, especially if they wrote on a few pages back.
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