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Kaga simpson
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106 of 124  Sun 5th Nov 2017 10:47am  
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Most people look on 1945 as the end of the war, peace and quiet for everyone, but it wasn't that simple. Millions of troops around the world wanted to go home, but transport could not cope at one go, there had to be order, but how? An American troop train pulled into Euston, so did a Canadian and a British (bad planning?) - the Americans and the Canadians each thought that they had priority on transport for some months, they clashed, a huge brawl erupted, the British Military Police told the Brits to stay on the train while other MP sorted it out, but that was minor to things on the continent. The Germans had looted, raped, and shot civilians during the war, even POWs but in the last few months of the war they shot whole villages (women, kids, old men, animals), torched whole villages, but when the war ended they were on their own. Military were after them for war crimes, but partisans of countries hunted and meted out their own reprisals, women collaborators were shorn of their hair, many men tortured and shot. In cafes and bars people were dragged out, never to be seen again, and people didn't interfere, you kept your head down, minded your own business.
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Kaga simpson
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107 of 124  Mon 6th Nov 2017 10:13am  
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Neils Yard, I find your interesting photo on 95 confusing, I thought all those old buildings had been removed before the Leofric building was started, is there any way anyone can date the picture?
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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108 of 124  Mon 6th Nov 2017 5:38pm  
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1954, Kaga - the White Lion was the last building in Smithford Street to be demolished Thumbs up
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Kaga simpson
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109 of 124  Tue 7th Nov 2017 4:01pm  
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PeterB. Well, well. So Coventry people made parachutes. So that's why I felt safe testing them out Thumbs up Cheers
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Kaga simpson
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110 of 124  Tue 7th Nov 2017 4:25pm  
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MR. Yes, I needn't have asked. In Feb 1954 I was 27, got involved in an emotional and more, with an unusual woman. We walked down the Precinct, watched the crane for a few moments, but I was voicing my thoughts too much. I hurt her feelings - at the bottom of the Precinct and in the shadow of that crane she told me of a tragic event that controlled her life. We parted. She rang me next morning - could we meet? We met, took a bus ride, met people, went places, both now in an emotional state - later we parted, it was over. Yes I have vivid memories of Coventry. Broadgate, Smithford St, Market Place, Corporation St, Hales St and Butcher Row and all between was a wonderful shopping centre, you could buy everything you needed all at close hand - so why not rebuild each, same exterior, modern interior. Keep the modern car out of the city, there was plenty of waste ground near the centre, in surroundings the people were used to.
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Kaga simpson
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111 of 124  Wed 8th Nov 2017 11:16am  
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Yes MR, the White Lion was end on to Broadgate, but by 1953 two-thirds of the Precinct on that side had been boarded up, but if you walked round to the Burges you could see it was still open for business. There was a long gap between the pub and the gents outfitters and there were still small mounds of rubble with a large patch cleared farther in. I believe the small rubble was there on purpose to stop the cars parking and blocking the view of the pub. On that side you see more clearly the scars of the bombing. But . . oh inside, it had been all very plush, on the Precinct side against the wall there were a red soft-cushioned bench - look across the room and you were looking down the Burges, the bar was the Broadgate end, its back to Broadgate. On the right of the bar was a corridor down to the toilets, can't remember the colour of the carpet. But to me it looked as if it had been refurbished in the thirties, but was showing wear and tear and its life was about to end. The whole place had been real plush and was still the dearest pub in town. There were old tankards on the shelves, a huge pair of bellows, long handled tongs, pictures, relics, all that went back to an older Coventry. but I loved it and used it often in the early fifties. As a boy I had known the cobbled streets and the horsedrawn cabs, so it was not hard for me to imagine further back in time - Hansom cabs drawing up outside, ladies in long beautiful dresses, men with side-burns, fob watches, long pipes etc. But I loved it and used it often in the early fifties.
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Annewiggy
Tamworth
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112 of 124  Mon 18th Dec 2017 8:01pm  
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An interesting view from the British Newspaper archives, The Sphere newspaper, of the area around the Cathedral under construction. October 1958 Edited by member, 18th Dec 2017 9:03 pm
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NeilsYard
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113 of 124  Wed 17th Jan 2018 4:14pm  
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Looking across to Smithford Street - or what remained of it! Christchurch spire visible to the left. That was some area to clear Sad
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Kaga simpson
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114 of 124  Sat 20th Jan 2018 10:48am  
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Annewiggy. You can see Owen Owen's ugly building, the left hand bottom corner of your photo, how it cut Trinity St, the Burges, off from Broadgate, did away with Cross Cheaping and West Orchard, just a small channel of traffic through, completely different to what people I talked to expected. But then Coventry people were used to sudden upsets, it all started in the mid-thirties.
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PhilipInCoventry
Holbrooks
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115 of 124  Sat 20th Jan 2018 11:12am  
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On 18th Dec 2017 8:01pm, Annewiggy said: An interesting view from the British Newspaper archives, The Sphere newspaper, of the area around the Cathedral under construction. October 1958
That was handy, Annewiggy, as an excuse for being late for school on Thursday mornings. I hated hymn practice, so construction work, roadworks, were a handy good reason for being late. It was never questioned!
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PeterB
Mount Nod
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116 of 124  Thu 15th Mar 2018 10:50pm  
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There is an exhibition of old photos of the city centre titled "Precinct Shopping" at the pop-up gallery in City Arcade. It is on until 31st March. It is open 2-5pm and all day for the shop front festival on 23/24th March. Peter.
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pixrobin
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117 of 124  Mon 19th Mar 2018 1:05pm  
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From AnneWiggy's earlier picture I have added labels
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Kaga simpson
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118 of 124  Fri 10th Aug 2018 4:21pm  
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I thought that around the mid thirties a lot of Coventry centre had been built well over half a century ago, and most buildings had an amount of timber and timber decays and the top end of the Burges was about to collapse and so was Butcher Row - so the council was forced to rebuild them. But the council did not just replace them, the top part of the Burges and Ironmonger Row, Little Butcher Row - they allowed Owen Owen to take over. Why? Owen Owen built a store that was massive and solid for Coventry, higher than other buildings in the new Trinity Street, more like a castle, small windows for a new shop. Why? Then less than five years later, they rebuilt, different spot, different design, three times lighter than the previous shop. Why? Post copied from topic Owen Owen on 12th Aug 2018 11:57 am
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flapdoodle
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119 of 124  Fri 10th Aug 2018 9:42pm  
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Different style because Coventry was being built in a contemporary style and everything had to fit in. New position was due to the Gibson plan. Post copied from topic Owen Owen on 12th Aug 2018 11:58 am
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Kaga simpson
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120 of 124  Sat 11th Aug 2018 11:29am  
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Flapdoodle, would they have the time? Can't see them planning anything until the late part of the war and then I have my doubts - they started to rebuild in mid to late '45 I believe. But Flapdoodle, don't think as a person of today, but as of that time. Let's go back to 1935, and the citizens have elected you to the council to look after their welfare because you're smarter than they are. Part of the city is falling down and has to be replaced and with your friends you plan to do just that - but it's going to take a lot of your city's money, and then you open the paper and you see a house destroyed by a bomb, not in this country but in Europe, and each day it's getting closer, so the papers tell you - this is no dream or bull****, this is for real. But large shopping firms want to move into Coventry, they can share the expense etc? Flapdoodle, this was really happening - this is Coventry's history. So Owen Owen take over approx half of the old shops and streets, but they build big and solid and reduce half the windows and glass - if one bomb is fortunate to hit the building, they will not lose too much, this is the thinking in those days. But now Poland is being smashed, not one house, but whole streets, our gov't is in uproar, no one has ever seen them like this, panic is rising, and you are called to emergency meeting after meeting. War is imminent, now you have to plan to maybe save your city, your mind is in turmoil, no-one knows anymore what is going to happen. Coventry is hit, maybe around 1,000 killed, scores of streets destroyed, no time for planning rebuilding, looks like more may go. But the bombers have been stopped, then a new un-manned bomb hits England - Coventry people look up, will they reach Coventry like the bombers did? No time to rebuild yet. Then Germany is defeated, Hamburg, over five years of bombing, is a pile of rubble, over 40,000 killed. Coventry breathes a great sigh of relief, and thinks back, but we can now rebuild, the war no longer on our soil. Japan will hit America before us. But then 'wham!' - the atom bomb. Not one house, not one street, now a whole city in a few seconds. More than a city, the land is contaminated for years. Can anyone build a shopping centre to withstand that? Of course not, so what the hell does it matter how fancy they build, are the planners really too concerned what they pass, or really looking to the shoppers in 2000 era. Russia is first into space, so the two mighty powers face up to each other, so there is still a great threat to the Coventry people from the skies, but in 1962 the crisis ended and Coventry have had a peaceful time since. Not once since '62 have you looked at the skies and had that dreadful fear like your fathers and grandfathers did. To me between 1935 and 1965 was Coventry's most unstable period in its history.
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