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Betula56
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1 of 18  Sun 17th Jan 2016 12:28pm  
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Hi, I found this at our local tip, printed by Cash's, dated 1780. I have so far found nothing on the internet.... I have found the David Gee 'Lammas Bounds' 1849, and the very atmospheric Turner view from the Holyhead Rd, both of which cover a similar viewpoint Edited by member, 19th Jan 2016 7:43 pm
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PhilipInCoventry
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2 of 18  Sun 17th Jan 2016 12:50pm  
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Hi & welcome Betula56, Wave Thank you for a most beautiful print. Found in a tip! We are so glad that you found it. Wave
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Helen F
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3 of 18  Sun 17th Jan 2016 1:23pm  
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Hi Betula56, That is a great find. While it’s a popular spot for images, I don’t think it’s exactly like anything I’ve seen before (I'll check). It could be a view from half way along Barss Lane but I suspect that it’s from a track way that ran from Barss (now Barras) Lane to Hill Street. A place on the map called Falting Stile is quite likely. Cash’s commissioned etchings which then went on to be turned into woven pieces, I’m guessing through the Jacquard process. Another name for it was the Stephenograph. Searching those areas might tell you more about this image and who might have created it. About Cash's Again, well done rescuing it! Thumbs up Edited by member, 17th Jan 2016 1:33 pm
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Dreamtime
Perth Western Australia
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4 of 18  Sun 17th Jan 2016 3:32pm  
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I am amazed that someone could have left that print at a tip. Oh my Obviously it meant nothing to them.
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Annewiggy
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5 of 18  Sun 17th Jan 2016 6:04pm  
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Lovely picture, what a find in a tip. I can't make up my mind if the strip across the middle of the picture is water as there is cattle in the middle of it, just wondered if it was Naul's Mill.
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Betula56
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6 of 18  Mon 18th Jan 2016 9:19am  
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Hi again, thank you for the replies! I think Helen F is on the money with the suggested location of the artist. Probably somewhere along the lines I have drawn on the 1750 map (provided by British Historic Towns Atlas) though it doesn't seem to entirely hang together..... I suppose we have to allow for a little artistic licence.... which may well have been endorsed
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Betula56
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7 of 18  Tue 19th Jan 2016 8:50am  
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I have not quite got the hang of this posting lark yet!! However, the pictures below by David Gee 1849 and JMW Turner 1833 have a similar view point to the 'mystery engraving'. The Turner is on the newly-contructed Holyhead road.... I think Edited by member, 19th Jan 2016 7:40 pm
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Betula56
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8 of 18  Tue 19th Jan 2016 8:51am  
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Both of these pictures have what would appear to be a toll house...... if it is, is it the same one?..... they are roughly 16 years apart Turnpike.org mentions a toll house, at SP3279 (an area 1km square) Does anyone have any info? Edited by member, 19th Jan 2016 7:41 pm
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Midland Red
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9 of 18  Tue 19th Jan 2016 9:29am  
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The Turner engraving already has its own thread here Thumbs up
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Annewiggy
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10 of 18  Tue 19th Jan 2016 4:32pm  
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This must have been the Saint John's Church Gate which was removed in 1844 and the tolls then collected at Allesley Gates.
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Betula56
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11 of 18  Tue 19th Jan 2016 7:31pm  
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Here is a list of 'lost' Coventry tollhouses. The Spon End one is a likely candidate for the Turner & Gee pictures. I have seen it suggested on other forums that the location for that tollhouse is the junction of Barrs Lane and Holyhead Road, and the fun on 'Lammas day' took place at what is now the Days, or Aston Court, Hotel.
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Wearethemods
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12 of 18  Wed 20th Jan 2016 9:32am  
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Betula56
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13 of 18  Wed 20th Jan 2016 9:45am  
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I thought it was a recipe from 'BBC Good Food'....life on the turnpike was never easy.... Edited by member, 20th Jan 2016 10:02 am
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TonyS
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14 of 18  Wed 20th Jan 2016 10:42am  
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Betula56
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15 of 18  Thu 21st Jan 2016 12:12pm  
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St John's Gate. This is just a small extract from a much larger document, it is tiresome reading, might that have been their intention? The thing that caught my attention was the 'half a mile from St John's' and 'new road' would fit the bill concerning the Turner picture? Edited by member, 21st Jan 2016 12:15 pm
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