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NeilsYard
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121 of 145  Mon 20th May 2019 9:20am  
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Hoping for improvements too. My only criticism with this (without wanting to get too political) is that Mr Harrabin, the chairman of the Historic Coventry Trust, is also well known for having his own extensive and successful building company. I'm sure part of that £25million (will it really cost that much?) may be heading their way. Edited by member, 20th May 2019 9:20 am
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Osmiroid
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122 of 145  Tue 21st May 2019 2:51am  
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I'd like the clock to be regilbertised.
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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123 of 145  Sat 10th Aug 2019 8:45pm  
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Why the Burges is called the Burges Thumbs up
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Rob Orland
Historic Coventry
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124 of 145  Sat 10th Aug 2019 9:47pm  
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Oh dear! The so called trainee journalist who wrote that article has got it all wrong! She said that "Historically, the word burges means 'between the bridges'." Goodness knows how she came to that conclusion from a single word. Burges is simply a corruption of Bridges - or, possibly more correctly, the other way around. It is an example of "metathesis", which is the historical swapping of letters within a word. The same applies to many words, including the old English "bridd", which became "bird", and "aks" (ax), which is now "ask". (Little do the illiterate few, who pronounce it that way, know, that they're actually pronouncing it the originally correct way!) The journalist was right that the short stretch of street was known as "between the bridges" (or perhaps originally "between the burges"?), but that has simply been shortened to "Burges", unsurprisingly - most of us avoid an unnecessary mouthful whenever possible!
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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125 of 145  Sun 11th Aug 2019 9:38am  
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Oh dear, And we as kids always said, “Why don't you ax somebody?” and parents and teachers alike told us off for being wrong, said we were lazy.
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Helen F
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126 of 145  Sun 11th Aug 2019 9:27pm  
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Now you see it, now you don't. Views from the corner of West Orchard, looking towards Ironmonger Row, before and after the east side of Cross Cheaping was removed to build Owen Owen.
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Helen F
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127 of 145  Sun 11th Aug 2019 9:37pm  
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On 11th Aug 2019 9:38am, Kaga simpson said: Oh dear, And we as kids always said, “Why don't you ax somebody?” and parents and teachers alike told us off for being wrong, said we were lazy.
If you could go back in time to correct them, you'd just get a clip round the ear for being a smark alec.
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Kaga simpson
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128 of 145  Mon 12th Aug 2019 8:08am  
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Helen F Yes, that you would, and sometimes you were dragged to the front of the class by your ear, that was most painful. Helen, for the first ten years of my life, that's how I saw the Burges - like your photos, open, clean shopping area. It was the first Owen Owen that dwarfed it and made it darker, more foreboding - the second Owen's absolutely isolated it, cut it off from the city no question, in fact it separated Broadgate, destroyed the harmony of the buildings, and both parts suffered. As much as Coventry wanted a new city and modern shops it really destroyed what had been the city centre.
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NeilsYard
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129 of 145  Wed 28th Aug 2019 11:54am  
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Some excellent detail here.
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Midland Red
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130 of 145  Wed 28th Aug 2019 1:45pm  
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Excellent, Neil Thumbs up I take it that is Matterson Huxley & Watson just right of centre?
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Helen F
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131 of 145  Wed 28th Aug 2019 4:21pm  
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It might be. It's labelled as a warehouse in the Fire Insurance maps but it fronts the Lion Foundry and Mattersons.
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NeilsYard
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132 of 145  Wed 28th Aug 2019 4:57pm  
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Heathite added this from a 1926 directory in the MH&W thread - (hope thats ok to add here Heathite!) I think the numbers tie-up 15 George Mason 16 Franks 17 MH&W although Englands closest to us is listed as No.6? Edited by member, 28th Aug 2019 5:00 pm
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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133 of 145  Thu 29th Aug 2019 8:25am  
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Neil, The list is 1926, I think your photo is much later - Englands could have moved. Yes, MHW store fronted the works. The interesting thing for me, MHW had been there from mid 1700's. I can picture about a score of smithies at work - pack horses, post horses, scores of stables, a real rural scene. The Burges a rutted track, mud two feet deep in the winter. The main five ways in old Harnall Lane for post horses that led out of town in all directions. Long before Constable’s 'Haywain’, long before Cobbett’s 'Rural Rides'. But the whole lot on that side down as far as Dunns went in 1940.
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NeilsYard
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134 of 145  Thu 29th Aug 2019 9:20am  
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Heathite also had this one from 1912 -
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Kaga simpson
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135 of 145  Thu 29th Aug 2019 3:22pm  
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Thanks Neil, Imagine living at the Talbot and being called Cross.
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