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Helen F
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1 of 32  Thu 4th Aug 2016 5:05pm  
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Does anyone know if any parts of the buildings on the east side of the Burges are half timbered underneath the brick skin? I ask because there are images of the old version. It is a 2 storey with dormers and a steep roof. Sometimes when modernising these, they just used the original building but added a flat front and a shallower, slate roof that allowed the attic rooms to become a true third level. Other times they rebuild from sratch.
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flapdoodle
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2 of 32  Thu 4th Aug 2016 8:27pm  
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Yes, they are. Go round the back and you can see timbers. You can also see some inside Forbidden Planet.
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Midland Red
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3 of 32  Thu 4th Aug 2016 9:06pm  
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Don't know if this helps Oh my
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Helen F
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4 of 32  Thu 4th Aug 2016 10:28pm  
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Thanks MR, great photos as usual. Thumbs up Flapdoodle, yes, that's the sort of thing I was looking for, especially the bit about the Forbidden Planet interior. Often the rear extension survived untouched while they tarted up the front or built a new one. Sometimes they even kept the rear slope to the roof and just changed the street view to Georgianise it. Sometimes they even added a bit of fake wall above the upstairs window to simulate a full height Georgian fa├žade, while the roof still came to the top of the window. Originally buildings like those in the Burges might have been rejected for listing because they didn't seem special but now with dendro dating and more experience they're finding parts of much older buildings hidden within later structures. I wondered if any of the plans for the area might delve into their history. The reason I'd like to know is that it's easier to un modernise a structure than guess what a totally new building replaced. It gives clues to floor heights and roof lines. Chimneys, etc.
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Rob Orland
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5 of 32  Fri 5th Aug 2016 10:50am  
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I hope the photo below will be useful in some way. I took it last year from a tiny window in the back of a cafe in The Burges (might not be a cafe any more), which overlooks the short length of uncovered Sherbourne, which is right below the camera. Nice to see some original uncladded timber work.
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Dreamtime
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6 of 32  Fri 5th Aug 2016 12:30pm  
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Helen F
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7 of 32  Fri 5th Aug 2016 1:04pm  
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A useful picture Rob, thanks. I've only got pictures with a very bad angle on that building and had thought the leaded beam at the bottom was another building. The arrangement of roof timbers was one of the most common in Coventry and is called a raking queen strut as far as I can gather.
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Heathite
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8 of 32  Fri 5th Aug 2016 2:59pm  
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If anyone has access to David McGrory's book - A History of Coventry, this image is uncannily similar to the image on page 124.
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Rob Orland
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9 of 32  Fri 5th Aug 2016 6:05pm  
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Oh yes, I see what you mean Heathite - very similar construction indeed. I hadn't remembered that image as I'd not looked through that book for quite some time. Must've been a common design locally back then.
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Helen F
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10 of 32  Fri 5th Aug 2016 9:06pm  
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A History of Coventry is one of the books I haven't got yet.
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NeilsYard
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11 of 32  Sun 25th Sep 2016 3:15pm  
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This is an unusual aspect of Cross Cheaping - you usually only get shots further south 'up' towards Broadgate without being able to see down Burges. Link to www.alamy.com
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NeilsYard
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12 of 32  Sun 25th Sep 2016 3:57pm  
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I think this is Cross Cheaping as is that The Talbot Inn sign on the right? Link to www.alamy.com
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dutchman
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13 of 32  Sun 25th Sep 2016 5:28pm  
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It was more than just a sign NeilsYard, that part of the building stuck out over the pavement:
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Osmiroid
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14 of 32  Sun 25th Sep 2016 9:20pm  
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(At the left side) Edited by member, 26th Sep 2016 9:28 am
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Dreamtime
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15 of 32  Mon 26th Sep 2016 2:54am  
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