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Frances
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691 of 703  Thu 10th Sep 2020 12:45pm  
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I come originally from Gloucester and the area round the cathedral there is so beautifully laid out with the adjacent old buildings well preserved. Beatrix Potter's 'Tailor of Gloucester's house is well worth a visit, The contrast with Coventry couldn't be more obvious. Student flats all over the place, seemingly thrown up. I think it is about time the planners stopped using the blitz as an excuse for the demise of the city. It is more like a mish-mash of high rise flats. My constant 'gripe' is the amazing Whitefriars workhouse. It is situated right in the middle of the ring road - amazing piece of planning expertise there! Ideal for a bit of graffiti for the students on their way home on a Saturday night after spending time and money at the pub while complaining that they are constantly 'broke'. Whatever will happen to this amazing piece of Coventry's history? I came into Coventry on the Park and Ride from Kenilworth not long ago and sat with two gentlemen from Nottingham who hadn't visited the city of their birth for more than twenty years. To say they could not believe what they saw was an understatement. 'Student City' I called it. They both said that they wished they had retained their memories. What a sad reflection on what should be a most beautiful and historic city that once was the 4th prominent city in the country. I fear it is too late to inject any sort of pride in the city and only a few Coventrians are left who will want to do so. I am so sad for Coventry. Frances Cool
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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692 of 703  Fri 11th Sep 2020 10:06am  
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Frances, I'm sorry to butt in, but Coventry was never interested in its old buildings and its real history, Coventry was always interested in its factories and what it produced. Coventry has a river three quarters of the way round the city, it had fields and beauty all through its streets, many natural lakes, but that didn't feed the people. Two centuries ago they brought in the factories, Cobbet opposed them, in every little nook and cranny a shed / factory rose, some names had several of these, they filled the city, hemmed in the historic. And its river went underground, its fields and flowers torn up. 1900 and an Irishman came with his small factory, to fit tyres to the bicycles, name of Dunlop, followed by Courtauld's from the south to continue its work and many other big names. Coventry were very proud of the people that represented them at so many exhibitions in Europe. The war brought the chance to do as you say, but the first little piece of grass they laid in the city centre, even as a memorial, and it only lasted a few years. I wonder how long the transport museum will last? And sadder for me, I don't think there is anything in the city in honour of the fallen that saved the heart of the city that fateful night.
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belushi
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693 of 703  Fri 11th Sep 2020 10:28am  
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On 10th Sep 2020 12:45pm, Frances said: I come originally from Gloucester and the area round the cathedral there is so beautifully laid out with the adjacent old buildings well preserved. Beatrix Potter's 'Tailor of Gloucester's house is well worth a visit, The contrast with Coventry couldn't be more obvious. Student flats all over the place, seemingly thrown up. . . .
Hi Frances Student City or post-industrial derelict wasteland? I know which I would choose.
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Frances
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694 of 703  Fri 11th Sep 2020 12:02pm  
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Hi Belushi, At least wasteland offers some chance of innovative design if anyone can be bothered. Blocks of student flats are an eyesore and do not represent the history of this once famous city. Incidentally I wonder how interested students are in this city? Frances Angry Edited by member, 11th Sep 2020 12:06 pm
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Helen F
Warrington
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695 of 703  Fri 11th Sep 2020 1:25pm  
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Hopefully things will happen for Whitefriars for the City of Culture but I'm still unsure what. There are some interesting things happening to Coventry's old buildings, but I'm not sure how much difference they'll make. Most of them are shut, most of the time. Successive architects have seen the city as a centre for modernism and commercialism (even in medieval times), but unfortunately some of the modern design was pretty dire. I first saw Coventry in the 90s and it was very rundown. For me it looks much better now. There are still areas that need improvement but the student blocks are at least bright and upbeat. The city lost so much in key moments of time. There was little money for preservation and by the time there was interest in that sort of thing, Coventry was almost denuded of charm. Ironic that one of the least pretty areas - the Burges is still there and I'm hoping that they transform the area as it's an eyesore. For tourism, the old elements are too far apart. The area with the cathedrals is interesting but there's a lot of church and not a lot else in quite a big area. Even when open, the St Mary's cathedral visitor centre was both limited and hard to find. St Mary's Hall is great but requires advance research to see when it's open. Almost everything else is private property. The Slug and Lettuce doesn't draw people in. The Herbert is ok but its Coventry section is [insert earthy ancient insult]. Which is a pity because they've got masses of wonderful stuff. Irritatingly, English Heritage has listed the post war shopping precinct, which is probably the worst era for design, ever. Where were they post war when masses of medieval buildings were demolished? Spon Street was the dumbest place to create a museum street as it's not near the bulk of the remaining features. They didn't even do it properly and make other businesses on the street conform to a design standard. I'm not even sure what could be done to pull the existing features together, they're so far apart. A weekly street market might help. Coventry will never be quaint. It's future lies in at least being useful. The university and its flats at least fulfil that spec. The alternative to going up is going out and green spaces get further and further away. Will people have pride in the city? That's a tougher question. I suppose it depends what people are looking for. Coventry certainly has more to attract people than Warrington. I doubt many people owe loyalty to their home town/city anymore because they move about to follow work.
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belushi
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696 of 703  Fri 11th Sep 2020 1:32pm  
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Hi Frances Coventry's wastelands have largely been redeveloped - new housing, retail and business parks, warehouses, football stadia - are they not an eyesore like student flats? A couple of years ago students were reviled for taking family housing units, now they are reviled for all the new blocks of student flats. In a capitalist society (in which we are unfortunately) developers will seek the highest profits, hence student flats. And please explain to me how innovative design can produce something that represents the city, and fulfil an economic and/or social purpose at the same time. Oh, and you cannot know if students care about Coventry: all you can do is assume what best fits your viewpoint. Belushi
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Helen F
Warrington
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697 of 703  Fri 11th Sep 2020 1:34pm  
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Keep it light folks.
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belushi
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698 of 703  Fri 11th Sep 2020 2:16pm  
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Hi Helen I agree with all you say. As a Coventrian born and bred I've lived through most of the post-war changes; some very good and some very bad. English Heritage has only been around since 1984; until 1962 the Ministry of Works decided on listed buildings. Its role then passed to the Ministry of Public Building and Works (1962–1970) then the Department of the Environment (1970–1997) and now it's the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport (according to Wikipedia).
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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699 of 703  Sat 12th Sep 2020 10:40am  
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Belushi, But it is your generation to blame, like the past one didn't really have chance to change it, but you did have chance to voice it, what with television, computers etc. Now the past generation? Look at 1900 and the next fifty years generation, for 19 centuries they had known horses for the pace of life, and then we flew higher and farther than any bird, travelled great speeds, able to talk to anywhere in the world, talking pictures, great strides in medicine, television, computers, cars, plus two world wars, and several strikes that crippled Coventry, and millions dead, whole cities destroyed, and a generation that really did fear annihilation.
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Frances
Kenilworth
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700 of 703  Sat 12th Sep 2020 12:17pm  
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Hi Belushi, My only comments about the students today are simple. In my day, going to university was the result of very hard work and it was a privilege. Today students seem to regard it as a "right". Entrance requirements are by comparison low and in many cases the work ethic is non-existent. Angry Frances Edited by member, 12th Sep 2020 12:19 pm
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Helen F
Warrington
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701 of 703  Sat 12th Sep 2020 1:09pm  
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Hi Frances, that's a separate issue and I mostly agree. Covid-19 may upturn that apple cart. A lot of youngsters have been fooled into forking out a lot of ultimately taxpayers cash for pointless courses. Universities have grown too large on those courses and foreign student money. Since much of student teaching is self driven, there is little need to attend uni. It's often treated as a finishing school. I did a tough STEM course but I barely used any of it in the work place. What I could have done with is targeted training as and when I needed it. Courtaulds funded a few courses but it worked out at about a £1000 + expenses for a three day course each time. With online videos and course books I can now get what I need and if I don't understand a bit or I forget, I can watch the videos again or look for another that explains stuff better. Youngsters are less self motivated but a system where there is interaction with a tutor would be better than what I had at uni where I was in a group of 120. I only saw my personal tutor about 5 times I was there. Group discussions will become normal as things like Zoom improve. Employers might choose modules they want staff to acquire rather than ask for a full course qualification. If universities don't offer reasonable rate, someone will undercut them.
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belushi
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702 of 703  Sat 12th Sep 2020 6:13pm  
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On 12th Sep 2020 12:17pm, Frances said: Hi Belushi, My only comments about the students today are simple. In my day, going to university was the result of very hard work and it was a privilege. Today students seem to regard it as a "right". Entrance requirements are by comparison low and in many cases the work ethic is non-existent. Angry Frances
Hi Frances. Your day seems to have been my day; like you I worked hard to get to university and was the first in my family to do so. Many young people today have the same outlook as we did, and some do not. Yes, it is far easier today to get into university, and don't get me started on the amount of first and 2:1 degrees awarded. But in our day tuition was free and there were maintenance grants for all but the rich, so in that respect our hard work was rewarded. Please don't tar all today's students with the same brush. Belushi Edited by member, 12th Sep 2020 6:30 pm
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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703 of 703  Sun 13th Sep 2020 11:13am  
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Frances, Sorry, I really thought you started out about the two towns, displaying their past. Two centuries ago, to study the near past, people walked to Kenilworth, to search a subterranean passage, about three foot high and wide. This was under the west wall, if they could't afford a horse, they walked everywhere. Or they would walk to Longford and watch a dozen people get baptised in the canal, or believe it or not watch thirty people ride on the top of the Nuneaton train carriage because no room inside. Victorian Coventry.
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