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pixrobin
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16 of 30  Fri 26th May 2017 5:55pm  
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Don't worry LesMac, I have been trying to get to grips with Bronze Age and Iron Age settlement in and around Coventry. I think it is when we have a history of our own that we tend to look to see how much difference there is between us and our ancestors - in the basics not a lot.
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Wearethemods
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17 of 30  Fri 26th May 2017 8:03pm  
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On 26th May 2017 2:14pm, LesMac said: Thanks for replies. I have been following links between the Templars, Roseline Chapel, Chris. Columbus and Oak Island. Why? Because I am in my dotage and got little else to do.
Roslyn Chapel is up here. I have often been asked if I am in the Knights Templar both in Inverness and Malta (having attended Lodge Meetings in both locations) but I am not involved to that extent. The KT hold meetings in the Lodges all the time.
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Gumnut
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18 of 30  Sat 27th May 2017 2:33am  
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I think the Roslyn Chapel pillars debate will always have questions to answer! Knights Templar, Freemasons and Calvinism while off topic of Coventry would make an interesting thread all by itself.
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Rob Orland
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19 of 30  Sat 27th May 2017 10:27am  
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You're right, such a thread would be interesting. Indeed, the Coventry links of each of those "organisations", for want of a better word, would make such a topic quite relevant if you wish to begin one. Incidentally, although I know almost nothing about the Knights Templar myself, I seem to recall David McGrory chatting about them to someone in the guildhall a while ago, and I think he said something about skulls being used as a symbol of mortality and as a way of discrediting the knights once they'd gone out of favour, possibly by the Catholic church, but I can't be sure.
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LesMac
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20 of 30  Sat 27th May 2017 12:25pm  
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Please excuse my misspelt Roslyn. In my mind I was thinking of Roseline Chapel in France that has links with Roslyn. I have been to Roslyn, very strange place. One arch is decorated with corn cobs and as the chapel was built before America was discovered, how could the builders know about corn cobs? Corn wasn't known here till comparatively recently. Well worth a visit, pity it's so far from here.
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Wearethemods
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21 of 30  Sun 28th May 2017 10:26am  
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I've also been to Roslyn and never thought about the corncobs. Out of interest and assuming they still do, all the Coventry Lodges meet up regularly in the Chapel below the ruins of Guy's Cliffe House on the edge of Warwick. Now that is a spooky place!
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Prof
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22 of 30  Wed 20th Feb 2019 1:52pm  
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Another view of St Mary Magdalene, Wyken, Coventry's oldest church.
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Mr Blue Sky
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23 of 30  Wed 20th Feb 2019 6:01pm  
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I remember seeing the gravestone with the skull and crossbones in the Wyken Church cemetery in the early 1950's. It was also known as the 'sinking church'. Maybe it was built on an island with a moat to start with, hence the name 'sinking church'.
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Kaga simpson
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24 of 30  Thu 21st Feb 2019 9:33am  
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Many people believe the Freemasons to be directly descend from the Knights Templar. I doubt that very much. Stones with stylised motifs have nothing to do with pirates, it simply means your death journey is not over yet.
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Wearethemods
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25 of 30  Thu 21st Feb 2019 11:24am  
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Hi Kaga, as a Master Mason, I can assure you that the link is that the Knights Templar is an additional Masonic order with Degrees open to those who have achieved Three Degrees and above with a firm belief in Christianity Thumbs up
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Kaga simpson
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26 of 30  Fri 22nd Feb 2019 3:25pm  
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Hi Wearethemods, the Crusades Knights were in the 11th century, the Templars early 12th century, and I believe the Freemasons 17th century - almost 600 years between. Where did you get to? (Joking!) The 'Franks' term was used to describe any westerner. Cheers
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Greg
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27 of 30  Fri 22nd Feb 2019 7:24pm  
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On 20th Feb 2019 6:01pm, Mr Blue Sky said: I remember seeing the gravestone with the skull and crossbones in the Wyken Church cemetery in the early 1950's. It was also known as the 'sinking church'. Maybe it was built on an island with a moat to start with, hence the name 'sinking church'.
I lived not far from this church, in the 50s/60s, and it was always said that it was sinking. The adjacent ground, down to the river Sowe, often flooded in winter and Wyken Croft had a permanent raised duckboard `pavement` to walk on when the road was flooded. For much of the 50s, this ground was the main rubbish tip for Coventry and it was common to see seagulls scavenging there. Maybe this stabilized the church.
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Kaga simpson
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28 of 30  Tue 26th Feb 2019 1:05pm  
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Baz, St Mary Magdalene in Coventry, Wyken. There's a third thought, what if it has a greater significance to Coventry than known. In 1947 and 1949 I paced out the distance from each of these. The Holy Sepulchre to St Mary Magdalene, Jerusalem, north-east direction. Forget the number of paces. Holy Trinity Church to St Mary Magdalene, Coventry, north-east direction, and near enough the same? St Mary Magdalene, Jerusalem, is now a Russian Church, but not at the time of the Crusades. I've been in that one but not the one in Wyken.
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Kaga simpson
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29 of 30  Sat 2nd Mar 2019 9:28am  
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Anyone know when the above closed? Anyone know when Chapelfields St Mary Magdalen opened? I believe the one in Wyken was built in or around 1100 AD but the tower at a later date. I also believe it was built, with something to do with the Crusaders, but never found out its real history.
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Kaga simpson
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30 of 30  Thu 7th Mar 2019 1:23pm  
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So let's look at a different angle. St George fought in one of the crusades, so did the Earl of Chester and his friend Seagrave - they all lived in Caludon Castle at different times. They needed a church near them so they built one a few yards away and called it St Mary Magdalene? Now if you climb the old Cathedral steps to the battlements and look at the city of Coventry, it's more or less the same height as Mt Carmel and looking down on the city of Haifa in the Holy Land. With the village of Magda (Mary from Magda) in the vicinity of Mt Carmel did that influence our heroes to name Wyken church as such? Me thinks, why not, the sort of thing they did back then?
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