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Midland Red
Cherwell
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46 of 54  Tue 22nd Dec 2015 10:42am  
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Message from Ian Hartas, UKBMD. There was Deregulation Bill put through parliament by Baroness Scott earlier this year which enables changes to the birth, marriage and death registration process to allow easier access to the Birth, Marriage and Death (BMD) records held by the General Register Office (GRO). On Friday 18th Dec. I attended a meeting at the GRO's premises in Southport as a representative of the Local BMD Project where the agenda was to probe the various representatives to see what their views were on the possible features that may be possible following this deregulation. (i.e. this meeting was not part of a full public consultation) One of their first comments surprised me - the recent deregulation only applies to the GRO and not the local Register Offices. The registration process is such that the BMD events are registered locally first, then quarterly copies are sent to the GRO. Unfortunately the copying process introduced a high rate of errors and omissions! So, although the GRO indexes may offer a national coverage, the indexes produced by the local register offices are more complete and more accurate. They also offer extra facilities such as naming the venue for the marriage. So there are advantages to seeking out copies of the original records from the local register offices rather than a copy of a copy from the GRO. Over the years, hundreds of volunteers from the various family history societies have freely dedicated many hours to transcribe records for the various local BMD websites. A growing number of these local register offices have also made large financial commitments by scanning their registers as a means of protecting the registers, but also as a means of simplifying the creation of copy certificates. Obviously, the register offices were also considering the future possibility of providing easier access online to scanned images, but only after deregulation allows for changes. If the GRO is permitted to produce online images of copy certificates at a reduced cost and the local register offices cannot offer the same facilities, then they will be severely disadvantaged financially and the hard work by all the family history society volunteers will be greatly devalued. So, what can you do? One option would be to contact your local MP and ask that the Deregulation Bill is extended to allow the local register offices to have the same rights as the GRO, so for example if the GRO may provide online images, then the local register office may do so too.
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mcsporran
Coventry & Cebu
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47 of 54  Tue 22nd Nov 2016 5:39pm  
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The 1841 census was the first to mention the names of everyone. However William West's 1830 directory of Warwickshire is online at google books. I am in the process of converting the list of Coventry residents into a spreadsheet showing the street name, surname, forename and occupation which will be available shortly in the Members Articles section of this forum. The 1841 census for Coventry can be searched by name or street at freecen.org.uk which also has the 1891 census for the city. The 1841 however can be downloaded for the whole of Coventry from the Warwickshire Ancestors Project by using the links at the bottom of the link. There are three large files, numbered 1152, 1153 and 1154 and you can check which is relevant by first examining the name or street index. The files labelled as html format are in fact formatted as csv (comma separated) files suitable for selectively copy/pasting or importing into a spreadsheet. The resultant columns will be Street name, Head of house indication, Surname & forename, Age to nearest 5 years if male, same if female, Occupation and Whether born in Warks or elsewhere. Although the house number is not included, streets were normally enumerated in sequential premises order so the actual property can be guesstimated from the proximity to the preceding or following street.
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mcsporran
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48 of 54  Sat 26th Nov 2016 4:59pm  
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I'm now compiling an index in street order to the 1841 census of Coventry similar to the one from the 1830 Directory. This raises a number of questions: 1. There are 30 people living at Church-yard side; is this Holy Trinity or St Michaels? 2. There are 20 people living at BALL and Anchor Yard, including publican Thomas Cooper. RealAleRambles has him at the BULL and Anchor in Bishop St, which is correct? The census does not have it Bishop St but in nearby Rood lane or Cook St area. 3. There are 30 people living in Freet St. Is this a valid earlier name for Freeth St? 4. Possibly a controversial one, is it Bayley lane or Bailey lane? 5. Any idea where Davis Yard is, in the Butts lane or Hertford terrace area?

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Helen F
Warrington
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49 of 54  Sat 26th Nov 2016 5:22pm  
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1 Trinity Church Side was the former name for Trinity Lane, Trinity Church Yard was from Derby Lane to (the old) Trinity Lane, which is now known as Cuckoo Lane (the vicarage for Holy Trinity was on this road. At some point half the buildings were demolished to build a prison.) The route continued through St Michael's grave yard to New Street but there were no properties on it. 2 The Bull's Head and Anchor was on the Bull's Head and Anchor Yard but it was just off Bishop Street between 37 and 38. But the Yard could be accessed from the other end on Rood (Rude) Lane which itself opened onto Cook Street. 3 Not as far as I know but there is a Fleet Street 4 Bayley Lane is the right spelling but it is named after the bailey of a mot and bailey defence structure. 5 don't know Edited by member, 26th Nov 2016 5:33 pm
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Helen F
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50 of 54  Sat 26th Nov 2016 6:14pm  
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2) to really confuse things, there was a Bull's Head on Bishop Street (number 9) on the opposite side of the road with a yard behind it called The Bull's Head Yard. That ran from Bishop Street to Well Street. Edited by member, 26th Nov 2016 6:14 pm
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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51 of 54  Sat 3rd Dec 2016 12:33pm  
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New developments at the GRO Thumbs up The GRO have created new indexes for births and deaths, and made them available on their website. The new birth indexes cover the years 1837 to 1915 and include mother's maiden name for all entries. The new death indexes cover the years 1837 to 1957 and include age at death for all entries. To start searching, register on the GRO website here This is a great addition to online information for family researchers Big grin
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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52 of 54  Wed 24th May 2017 10:14pm  
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Public family trees on Ancestry are notorious for being misleading, as they prove to be inaccurate, due to a failure to substantiate what's included I found one tree which included my grandfather, it showed him emigrating to USA and marrying in that country - good job my grandma never found out! Roll eyes To make matters worse, the incorrect tree was clearly copied by others and adopted as "their family"! Post copied from topic Thomas Ward on 25th May 2017 5:37 pm
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Annewiggy
Tamworth
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53 of 54  Thu 25th May 2017 10:03am  
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I agree MR. It is useful to look at other peoples trees for clues but I would advise anyone to check the information themselves for errors. Also with the hints, Ancestry often come up with a hint that seems to fit until you look at them in detail. Post copied from topic Thomas Ward on 25th May 2017 5:38 pm
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Old Lincolnian
Coventry
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54 of 54  Thu 25th May 2017 4:33pm  
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I'd like to second that MR. When I researched my own family tree although several trees had both my parents on it, I didn't exist Sad On the same trees both my brothers' dates and places of birth were wrong and so was the name of my father's first wife. They have now been corrected but you never now who else has used them in their tree Post copied from topic Thomas Ward on 25th May 2017 5:38 pm
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