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Slim
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421 of 436  Tue 13th Oct 2020 9:47pm  
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PhilipInCoventry
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423 of 436  Wed 14th Oct 2020 12:37pm  
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Virus patient suffers permanent hearing loss.
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PeterB
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424 of 436  Wed 14th Oct 2020 9:08pm  
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Foreign Secretary's statement on coronavirus (COVID-19): 16 April 2020 "So, let me set out 5 specific things which the government will need to be satisfied of before we will consider it safe to adjust any of the current [lock-down] measures." "Fifth, and this is really crucial, we need to be confident that any adjustments to the current measures will not risk a second peak of infections that overwhelm the NHS. The worst thing we could do now is ease up too soon and allow a second peak of the virus to hit the NHS and hit the British people. It would be the worst outcome, not just for public health, but for the economy and for our country as a whole." So it looks like we officially have the worst outcome. I am not against a second lock-down if they can convince me they can get it right this time; but if it just puts everything off for a month or two is it worth it?
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PhilipInCoventry
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425 of 436  Thu 15th Oct 2020 4:04pm  
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Afternoon all. Vitamin D Vitamin D I've always understood to be the difficult one, as our bodies have to manufacture it, from a consumption of D rich food source, as well as the action of sunlight. Years ago, I was told by a pharmacist that all of the pills in the world will only work with direct sunlight. Maybe that's changed.
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PhilipInCoventry
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426 of 436  Thu 15th Oct 2020 7:27pm  
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Hi all, When I am looking at case studies, I am constantly reminded of the phrase, Statistics, Damn Statistics & Lies. How stats are constructed is so crucial to them meaning anything. Tall folk are more likely to hit their head on a low lintel, but only if the lintels are lower than what they are used to.
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Slim
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427 of 436  Thu 22nd Oct 2020 9:59am  
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So the lady in the Pool Meadow newsagent was correct: Coventry is going to Tier 2 tomorrow. Even more confusing is that there is a main 3-Tier scheme for, but an entirely different 4-Tier scheme for higher education. To quote from a Coventry university's website:
"Rather confusingly, the UK Government has introduced a separate national Covid-19 response framework that uses a different tier system for local regions, counties, towns and cities. At the time of writing, Coventry and Warwickshire are both at Alert Level 1 of this framework – Medium Risk. This means no change to any of our operations. Should that level change, we will advise of any adjustments that we need to make. Universities are expected to stay open at all local alert levels – but our operational model (or ‘tier’ of response) may change to reflect increased societal restrictions."
Reportedly, the pubs are going to be hit worst. A Coventry lady made the point this morning: “From tomorrow, I won’t be able to go to a pub with my sister – but it’s perfectly all right for me to go into a pub alone and mingle with a load of strangers”. To quote the late Barbara Castle, who often said “I’ve said it before and I’ll go on saying it”, you couldn’t make it up. There was a cartoon in one of the broadsheets years ago, with a Frenchman, dressed in typical horizontally-striped jersey and black beret, who, standing at the bar, glass of cognac in hand, said “In zur puerb, we men can deescuss ze important matters weez intelligence and claritay”. Amusing, but factually correct, when applied to this country. The pub has been around since time immemorial in England, is a part of our culture and ingrained into our psyches. Not only can interesting conversations be had, but much useful, factual and accurate information can be picked up from blokes in the pub, information which often cannot be obtained from our newspapers or official sources. Moreover, the pub is a centre of commerce for many transactions. For example, I wanted a little job doing by a tradesman, so I looked in the local freebie trust-a-trader type pamphlet that is shoved through the door every month. Most of these “official” traders never answered the phone, never rang back after I left messages, and in the case of one who did answer and came round to quote, he clearly didn’t want the work. His attitude was arrogant: “I don’t do what you’ve asked, I do so and so instead. It costs more but it’s better. I won’t lie to you – I’ve got load of jobs already booked in.” He then insulted me further by emailing me a quote which was four times higher than the price I had in mind. I mentioned this to a landlady in a hostelry which was, admittedly, down the rougher end of town, and she said “Oh, you want Mick, come and have a look at what he’s done out the back. Here’s his phone number.” Mick (not his real name), duly came round, quoted the proper price for a cash job, and a week later it was all sorted. The correct way to do business. I suspect many of our MPs are unaware of this modus operandi and do not frequent boozers. In this country, the pub is an important part of our heritage. It is a centre for socialising, intelligent conversation, and business transactions. The pub is now being threatened and we must protect this important part of the nation’s culture. Discuss.
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Kaga simpson
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428 of 436  Thu 22nd Oct 2020 11:13am  
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Because of my age I hardly come into this, I think everyone knows of pubs, but a pub or cafe is no use to you if you’re dead. Surely this virus is an individual thing due to your immune system. Two people go into hospital, same age, same treatment - one dies, one lives. I know of no other reason but their immune system. This virus makes a mockery out of war, you can’t see the bloody thing, you can't feel it or hear it. Tell us the food, or whatever, to boost and fight the damn thing, not fact and figures - they cure nothing.
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Midland Red
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429 of 436  Thu 22nd Oct 2020 12:24pm  
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Kaga. Your beloved horse racing too Oh my I think many thought at the time that the Cheltenham meeting should not have been allowed to go ahead There’s things in this article which convince me that a lockdown, whether imposed or voluntary, is vital.... Graham Smith, who works for Liverpool city council, fell ill with coronavirus in March and still has not fully recovered, getting a tightness in his chest during exercise. A council worker who was put into a coma to help him fight Covid-19 is still feeling the effects 7 months on. Graham Smith fell ill with the deadly bug in mid-March after a trip to Cheltenham Races with friends. Speaking about his experience, and his ongoing battle with "long-covid" Graham said he began feeling unwell around a week after attending the races, reports the Liverpool Echo. He said: "I started feeling unwell on the Saturday after the Cheltenham Friday. "I started my self isolation, I'd done 12 days and I wasn't beating it. It was my breathing that was really starting to go and I rang an ambulance and they come out and took me in to hospital. And within two hours I was in the ICU." The government has previously come under fire for allowing Cheltenham Races to go ahead as the first peak of the virus was building earlier this year. Organisers have since defended the decision for the racing event to go ahead. Sue Smith, the senior racecourse medical officer for The Festival, said: “It’s simply not possible to know how and where someone who has tested positive for Covid-19 has contracted it. "The standards of hand wash and hygiene at the Festival were of the highest level and all measures were taken in accordance with daily updates from Public Health England." Graham described his stay in the intensive care unit as one of the scariest things he has ever experienced. He said: "I've never been into ICU before, I don't struggle with anything else. I don't have any underlying health conditions. "It was new to me and it was a bit scary when you get in there. The situation around you with the people who were already on the ventilators, they're sick and what you see in there, it's pretty heavy at times." Graham said that after three days in the ICU, a consultant told him to call his family as he was being placed into an induced coma. He said: "It was around day three and I was really struggling within the ICU. The head consultant came in and said 'Look Graham you need to make them phone calls we talked about. He said 'Speak to your wife, speak to your children, tell them what you need to say because your lungs are looking like they're about to collapse and we need to get you straight onto a ventilator and an induced coma'. "So that was pretty heavy, that was the worst of it."
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Kaga simpson
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430 of 436  Thu 22nd Oct 2020 1:34pm  
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Midland Red I fully agree, had it been in my younger days, I wouldn't have been seen ln the same county. I had to go to Eastbourne Hospital last week, and dreaded it - couldn't get away soon enough. This is the most dangerous thing the world has faced, make no mistake. We are going to lose a lot more, only the strongest will survive unless we get a vaccine - and that's not going to happen. It's a sad thought, but we have to face up to it.
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JohnnieWalker
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431 of 436  Thu 22nd Oct 2020 8:52pm  
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On 22nd Oct 2020 12:24pm, Midland Red said: (amongst other things) Sue Smith, the senior racecourse medical officer for The Festival, said: “It’s simply not possible to know how and where someone who has tested positive for Covid-19 has contracted it.
Sue Smith is totally misinformed! That is exactly what the health services in Australia have been able to do - of all the thousands who have contracted the virus in Australia, only a tiny percentage have had to be recorded as "unknown source". The track and trace systems here haven't been perfect, but they haven't left many mysteries unsolved.
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Helen F
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432 of 436  Thu 22nd Oct 2020 9:06pm  
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It's a matter of scale. As I told an Australian friend the other day, there were more cases in my village at that moment than the entire Australia. At least 5 million have had it here.
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Kaga simpson
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433 of 436  Fri 23rd Oct 2020 9:44am  
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The last time we had this kind of virus was exactly a century ago and it killed millions in Europe, more than the whole of the Great War, we are led to believe. And there doesn't seem any improvement in the cure since then. The population has exploded since then and as for travel there's no comparison between then and now - it's now immense. What is the state of the lungs after you have had the virus? The state of health, how long can you plan for with your kids, and are your kids safe from you? These are the questions I would like answered. Anyone?
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Helen F
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434 of 436  Fri 23rd Oct 2020 7:09pm  
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The 1918 pandemic was truly terrible with a case fatality rate (cfr) of up to 5% This started out at a cfr of about 1.2% but due to treatments and a better awareness of how disproportionately it affects the old (flu attacks the very young as well as the old and the 1918 flu attacked the fit and healthy) cfr is now at least 50% of what it was in March. The AstraZenica trials are going well and are giving a strong immune response. They were hoping that the vaccine would at least make any case less severe but the strength of the results suggest that it may stop most people getting sick at all. Fingers crossed. There's an outside chance the most vulnerable may be vaccinated before Christmas. So I'm hoping that you can brag about it in December Kaga.
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pixrobin
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435 of 436  Fri 23rd Oct 2020 8:49pm  
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I live in a Housing with Care facility yet there have been no sign of testing throughout the pandemic. What we have had is a string of workmen coming in and out to update parts of the building. The great majority of our residents are over 70, so are vulnerable. We are allowed only close relatives as visitors. For me, and I'll make no bones about it, that would need exhumations from Canley cemetery. Apart from the forum breakfast on 29 February, I have not left Williowbrook for more than a year.
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