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Helen F
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106 of 119  Wed 4th Nov 2015 10:42am  
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This is labelled as Charles II House Coventry but I'm doubting it is. It does resemble the style of buildings in Coventry but I don't know of any that matched this. Does anyone know of a Charles II House? Two options - that the artist has created the view from imagination or that someone has misattributed it, thinking it was Bayley Lane. From the earliest images (older that the painting above) I know that the buildings next to St Mary's Hall did not resemble the painting. It only superficially looks like the drawing below of Bayley Lane. Edited by member, 4th Nov 2015 10:44 am

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Annewiggy
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107 of 119  Thu 5th Nov 2015 9:43am  
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Helen, do you have any idea of the date of the painting?

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Helen F
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108 of 119  Thu 5th Nov 2015 10:08am  
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Sadly no Ann but the artist was James Lawson Stewart (1829-1911). I think the back part of the building looks like flint which would place it in the south, which is where his other two paintings for sale are from. I can't think Troughton would have missed this one if it had existed when he was sketching the city.
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Tamworth
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109 of 119  Thu 5th Nov 2015 1:02pm  
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This picture is a puzzle! I have found a reference on a site gth.net with one of his paintings ref 272 The Old Manor House, Cheylesmore, and there is also one on ebay at the moment of Exhall. Do they mean by a Charles II house that it was built in his reign? The one by St Mary's Hall is older, I think it is Tudor by the plaque. The tower in the background looks too "dumpy" for Holy Trinity or St Michael's. Also I don't remember seeing anything like the trough/drinking fountain or horse trough in the picture. There is a drinking fountain outside St Mary's but that is a completely different shape. So sorry I can't be of much help but if I do come across anything I will let you know.
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Helen F
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110 of 119  Thu 5th Nov 2015 3:45pm  
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Thanks Ann. Following your comment I did a search on some of the other art auction sites for paintings by the artist. One of them attributes the image or something very similar to Aylsham (wherever that is). I think we can cross this off as a Coventry image. Thumbs up Sad Good we know, bad it's not a new find.
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Kgldsun
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111 of 119  Tue 11th Apr 2017 7:28am  
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Emptying my late Aunt's home, I came across these three delightful framed pictures by a JJ Rattican / Rattigan. They are of Coventry Cathedral, Fords Hospital and Old Cathedral ruins. I can find no reference to the artist or indeed the drawings / sketches. Can anybody offer any knowledge please? Thank you in advance.
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Midland Red
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112 of 119  Tue 11th Apr 2017 7:35am  
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Does this refer to the same person?
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113 of 119  Tue 11th Apr 2017 10:27am  
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Welcome to the forum Kgldsun. I bought a box of Coventry stuff several years ago and I have just checked and one of the albums contains 18 black and white pictures by the same artist. These have the name on the bottom of the picture but they are also signed. I can confirm that the name is Rattigan. I can't tell if the pictures are originals or prints but the signature looks original. The collection I bought was from an old gentleman who lived in Bonds Hospital sheltered accommodation in Coventry and he probably knew the artist. Sadly the man I bought the stuff off is no longer with us so I can't ask him. I will see if I can find out any more about him as I am also interested.
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Kgldsun
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114 of 119  Thu 13th Apr 2017 5:22pm  
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Thank you so much for your reply. I too am not sure if they are a print or the genuine artwork. The signature on all three differs ever so slightly, but I guess it doesn't confirm if a print or genuine. As they don't fit in with my decor, I'm looking at possibly selling them. I do however need to know the facts about them. I do know they were purchased in 1985. This is due to the fact my aunt dated everything as she bought them. Thanks again.
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115 of 119  Thu 13th Apr 2017 7:00pm  
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I am sorry Kgldsun, I have not been able to find anything out about J J Rattigan. I have looked on Ancestry and the most likely candidate seems to be John Joseph 1921-2006. There is another J J but he died in 1962 which may be a little early for some of the pictures. The black and white pictures I have include B & W pictures of the ones you have. Sorry I can't be of more help. Hopefully someone else will see your post and be able to help. Did your aunt have any connection with Coventry? Edited by member, 13th Apr 2017 7:01 pm
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Heathite
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116 of 119  Thu 13th Apr 2017 10:05pm  
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I think you have John's father there Anne. He died in 1962. I think their tree is something like this. John Joseph RATTIGAN -married- Ethel LEWIS. Their son (probably the artist) - John J RATTIGAN - born 1922 Q1 Foleshill. John Joseph the father - born. 9th July 1898. He married Ethel LEWIS on 1st May 1921. Details on Ancestry site but it won't allow access to their tree. The publisher is Guy RYLATT. John the artist probably married Kathleen Joan SKINNER (Joan Kathleen SKINNER) 1942 Q3 Coventry. I can't find anything else just yet.
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117 of 119  Thu 13th Apr 2017 10:58pm  
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When John Joseph and Kathleen got engaged he was a bombardier in the Royal Artillery and lived at 8 Shortley Road, Whitley, according to the Coventry Evening Telegraph announcement.
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Kgldsun
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118 of 119  Sun 16th Apr 2017 5:25pm  
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Hi again, other than being an avid British Isles traveller, there was no connection at all with Coventry. I'm guessing she saw them in a shop and liked them.
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Midland Red
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119 of 119  Wed 17th May 2017 3:01pm  
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On 17th Oct 2012 11:54am, Foxcote said: I have found another talented, local artist - David Gee, 1794-1872. I liked his work and thought he must have had local connections due to his subjects painted. He was born about 1794 and lived most of his life on the north side of Spon St near the junction of Barras Lane. He attended a local charity school. Before taking up art as his full-time profession, he worked for a while in his father's watchmaking business (don't know where yet). I found him in Pigot's Directory 1835, Painter of House signs (Portrait also), the address was Spon St. From the 1861 and 1871 census (he died the next year in 1872), he was living at 20, Stoney Stanton Road. I haven't managed to find an obituary yet.
I have transcribed his very interesting obituary and posted it with his entry in our "Famous Coventrians" list Thumbs up - it was too long to post here Oh my
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