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1141 of 1160  Sun 10th Sep 2017 9:40pm  
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Thanks for that, will investigate.
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Sorcha
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1142 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 1:18pm  
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I'm hoping you lovely people can help me. I had two gg aunts who ran pubs in Cross Cheaping at the beginning of the last century. One ran the Royal and after a trip to Coventry buying a book and a massive domestic outside the Orchard Place I think we were able to guess where it was. The other pub though was the Queens Arms, 18 Cross Cheaping, try as I might I'm clueless where it was. Can anyone shed any light?

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1143 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 1:34pm  
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Hi Sorcha Wave Welcome to our friendly forum Have a look on Real Ale Rambles - click "Pub History" tab - which you should find useful Thumbs up
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1144 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 4:34pm  
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Hiya Red, thanks for the welcome ๐Ÿ˜Š I did look at that, what I'm really interested in is the location of the pub, I've scoured the 1911 census for the running order of the street numbers to no avail
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Helen F
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1145 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 4:50pm  
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18 was on the west side about half way to the Burges. Best place to see the numbers are the fire insurance maps. Link to all older maps The Queen's Arms belonged to the Bablake School charity. Edited by member, 16th Sep 2017 4:52 pm
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1146 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 4:59pm  
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Here's Cross Cheaping in 1912-13 Spennell's Directory
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Sorcha
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1147 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 6:03pm  
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Thankyou so much! There's so much info here! Could you recommend any books that would be useful too? Many thanks xx
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Helen F
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1148 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 7:38pm  
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There is a recent book about Coventry's pubs but I've only seen it at the Herbert and I haven't got a copy yet. There is a painting of the Queen's arms in Bunney's book. It's on a picture labelled Mattersons in Cross Cheaping and the pub has Welton across the front. Bunney book Edited by member, 16th Sep 2017 7:42 pm
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1149 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 8:22pm  
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On 23rd Nov 2015 11:52am, Osmiroid said: I'd be interested in any info on the Royal Vaults at the top of Cross Cheaping. (Before demolition)
Hi I've pm'd you too. You are right about William Flower Lane the landlord who died in the boer war. His wife continued to run the pub until 1913 and he's buried in London road cemetery.
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1150 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 8:24pm  
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Thank you so much. What's the Herbert?
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Helen F
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1151 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 8:33pm  
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Sorry, I meant the Herbert Art Gallery and specifically the History Centre connected to it. I've not seen a copy on Amazon.
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1152 of 1160  Sat 16th Sep 2017 9:25pm  
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Ooh I wish I'd known, I was in there earlier in the year when we were trying to find the pubs. I should have joined this forum sooner๐Ÿ˜”
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1153 of 1160  Mon 18th Sep 2017 2:17pm  
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This memorial was erected to the quaintly named William Flower Lane, one time landlord of the Royal Vaults in Cross Cheaping. He also had connections to other Coventry pubs. William was a serving soldier most of his life, his service records describe him as 5' 10'' tall with brown hair and hazel eyes. Whilst stationed in Sheffield he met his wife Emily. Emily's life was marred by tragedy, one of 18 children, only 7 saw adulthood. Even then her older sister Adelaide died young leaving a husband and 7 small children. On William's discharge from the Army in 1896, his given address was The Peeping Tom Hotel in Hertford Street. Maybe William didn't adjust to civilian life as he re-enlisted and was sadly killed in the Boer War in 1900 whilst saving a wounded comrade. Emily and her brother Ernest continued to run The Royal and were joined in Cross Cheaping by their sister Tryphena and husband Richard Moore. The Moores ran The Queens Arms at number 18. Tryphena was widowed in 1911 but ran the pub until 1918. I'd like to think the Lanes' marriage was a happy one. William's Army records note he was of exemplary conduct, good humour and temperate habits - whatever that means! They sadly had no children but her two of Adelaide's children moved to Coventry and married there. Sarah Pett married John Idiens, a man of means and 36 years her senior! Basil Pett married Theresa Nauen who ran a shop in Spon Street. He was decorated for gallantry in WW1 but the marriage didn't last. Whether it was the death of brother Ernest in 1913 or her own failing health, Emily left the Royal that year and took a house in Meriden Street but developed cancer and returned to Sheffield to die 5 years later. One of the executors of her will was a Jonathan Hewitt who ran the Old Stag Inn. I only learned of my Coventry connections quite recently and came to visit this year. Although there is little left of anything connected to my family I discovered Coventry's unique charm and now a little piece of my heart will always be there. If you've managed to get to the end of this without losing the will to live, thank you for your patience ๐Ÿ˜Š
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1154 of 1160  Mon 18th Sep 2017 4:11pm  
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Family histories are interesting and the hobby has opened up a lot of research data. Thumbs up I've been trying to map Coventry's old buildings and the pubs are an essential guide to where things were. In the oldest images the pubs were often denoted by a lantern attached to the outside, so those without temperate habits could see their way to the pub in the evening and stagger back at night. Cheers The names of the pubs changed over the years but the locations moved about too, eg The Spread Eagle on West Orchard moved up and down the road such that it was hard to match up the maps and the images of it.
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1155 of 1160  Mon 18th Sep 2017 4:35pm  
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