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pixrobin
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1 of 22  Tue 15th Apr 2014 8:59pm  
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As you may know from reading some of my previous posts I am researching my family history too. Both my mum and dad had been married previously and remarried in 1941. While I know a lot about my dad's previous marriage I know little of my mother's. They married at St John's church in Fleet Street in October 1922. Both Albert F Lines and Minnie Boneham gave their address as Crow Lane (off Spon Street) at their marriage in October 1922. I can trace backwards OK. I can even trace forwards after my mum ran off with the insurance man (about 1934) Wink but the years in between are a complete blank. And what happened to Albert? Any help would be appreciated.
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charabanc
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2 of 22  Wed 16th Apr 2014 2:06pm  
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pixrobin Do you have any idea of Albert F Lines' date of birth? Between 1922 and 1969 there were at least three Albert F Lines who died in England or Wales - From FreeBMD - 1 Death registered in 4th quarter of 1945 in Hatfield aged 77 - therefore born c 1878 2 Death registered in 2nd quarter of 1951 in Reading aged 61 - therefore born c 1890 3 Albert Francis Lines - death registered in 2nd quarter of 1969 in Canterbury. Date of birth 30th April 1903. If it was a youthful marriage (he aged c 19), the third would seem most likely, if he was about 32 at his marriage, then the second would fit better. The earliest would put him at about 44 at the date of marriage. It may, of course, be none of these three that you are looking for. Did Minnie remarry as Minnie Lines or Minnie Boneham? I can't find anyone married with either name in 1941.
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pixrobin
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3 of 22  Fri 18th Apr 2014 12:21am  
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She remarried under the name Minnie Stanger - in Wandsworth 1941 But, what I am really interested in is her life with Albert F Lines in Coventry - from 1922 to early 1930s. Of course she wouldn't be shown on electoral registers until 1928 when all women got the vote. Albert Lines was born around 1897 - either in Warwick or Nether Whitacre.
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charabanc
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4 of 22  Fri 18th Apr 2014 12:42pm  
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There were no Albert Lines registered as born in the Warwick area between the beginning of 1895 and the end of 1899. The nearest were an Albert Lines registered in the 1st Quarter of 1897 in Aston and an Albert Edward B Lines registered in the 2nd Quarter of 1898 in Rugby. What were your sources for the information?
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Primrose
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5 of 22  Fri 18th Apr 2014 1:34pm  
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I'm assuming this information came from the marriage records. In which case, does it say what the father's name and profession were? There is an Albert F Lines born in 1890 in Banbury whose father, George, worked for the railways as did this particular Albert F(rederick). They were living in Crewe, however, in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.
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Midland Red
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6 of 22  Fri 18th Apr 2014 4:57pm  
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On 18th Apr 2014 12:21am, pixrobin said: Albert Lines was born around 1897 - either in Warwick or Nether Whitacre.
There is a death registered in Coventry in 1979 Mar 1/4 of Albert Frederick Lines, born 25 Oct 1897 In 1897 Dec 1/4 there is a birth registered in the Meriden Reg Dist - which covered Nether Whitacre - of Frederick Albert Lines As it is not uncommon for Christian names to become reversed during a lifetime, I suspect these may be one and the same person I hope it may help you!
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pixrobin
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7 of 22  Fri 18th Apr 2014 8:24pm  
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Thanks for the responses. I last did any real work on my family history a couple of years ago and I think I got fed up after installing a newer version of Family Tree Maker. Angry I went from the old, and sensible interface (Version 11), to an interface that seemingly is concentrated on histories at a very superficial level (BMD) and charts. At least I have the older version on another computer. One of the things I have realised is that past lives were not quite as simple as we are often led to believe. Often our parents and ancestors did things for practical reasons rather than to comply with regulatory systems. Reminds me of the phrase "Life gets complicated don't it". Even during my mother's upbringing - my grandfather was a farm labourer - she had lived at 5 different addresses between her birth in 1904 until her marriage in 1922. I got to know about my mother's marriage to Albert Lines around 20 years ago. I was reviewing the original Family Tree Maker for a computer magazine and spoke to my step-sister (surname Stanger) and she mentioned it. My younger daughter has done a lot of the leg-work on my father's side of the family and she holds all the paper documents that we have acquired - including a copy of Minnie and Albert's marriage certificate. In her interlude with Harry Stanger I have traced them to Red Lane and Crabmill Lane before Harry decided 'My country needs me' at the outbreak of WWII.
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pixrobin
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8 of 22  Thu 24th Apr 2014 12:43am  
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Thanks for the info. I managed to cover the 1934 - 39 period (on my last visit to Coventry) when my mother was living with the insurance man. The unusual - for Coventry - of his Stanger surname made that reasonably easy though time consuming. The Lines surname is much more common in Coventry during the early 20th century - and Rugby/Newbold was full of them. It is the addresses I am trying to find so it would be a tedious search. Really it was just an off-chance as I had found the London electoral rolls on Ancestry and was able to find the addresses for my father during his first marriage. Thank you all for your interest.
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pixrobin
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9 of 22  Sun 11th Oct 2015 8:28am  
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I finally got round to ordering the Albert F Lines death certificate. (I made the move from Accrington to Coventry in between the last post on this thread and now.) The certificate was another piece of the jigsaw and contained a couple of bits of info I hadn't had before - and now have another lead to follow. Without the help from members here I'd have been stuck. Thank you.
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mcsporran
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10 of 22  Sun 11th Oct 2015 10:28am  
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Were you also aware that Albert F Lines married Alice Palmer in Coventry in Qtr3 1916? familysearch.org
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11 of 22  Sun 11th Oct 2015 10:50am  
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Alice Lines died 2nd qtr 1921 age 26 (Coventry 6d 678) They had one child, Albert H Lines, b 1st qtr 1917 (Coventry 6d 1294) - he probably married Olive M Boult in 1946
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pixrobin
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12 of 22  Sun 11th Oct 2015 5:07pm  
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You are spot on there MR. I now have the name and address of Albert F's granddaughter and have written her a letter today.
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Primrose
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13 of 22  Mon 2nd Nov 2015 1:17pm  
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Pixrobin, have you had any joy researching Albert F. Lines? On July 30th in the Days Lane and East Street (rent books, directories) thread Heathite posted at my request an image of Coronation Road's inhabitants in the mid-1930s and there is an Albert F. Lines living at number 7. I asked my mum about him (she moved there in 1948) and she remembers him, his appearance, and his wife Mary. I don't remember him myself but his name sounded familiar.
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pixrobin
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14 of 22  Mon 2nd Nov 2015 5:59pm  
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Thanks for that Primrose. I'll have to investigate more on my next visit to the history centre. Thanks too to Heathite for posting it.
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mcsporran
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15 of 22  Tue 3rd Nov 2015 5:02pm  
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Albert F Lines born 1897 was the only inhabitant of 7 Coronation Rd in the 1939 Register (taken on 29th September).
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