
Betula56 Moreton in Marsh All posts by this member | 1 of 18 Sun 17th Jan 2016 12:28pm Member: Joined Jan 2016 Total posts:9 Hi, I found this at our local tip, printed by Cash's, dated 1780. I have so far found nothing on the internet.... I have found the David Gee 'Lammas Bounds' 1849, and the very atmospheric Turner view from the Holyhead Rd, both of which cover a similar viewpoint
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PhilipInCoventry Holbrooks All posts by this member | 2 of 18 Sun 17th Jan 2016 12:50pm Moderator: Joined Apr 2010 Total posts:4231 Hi & welcome Betula56, ![]() ![]() |
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Helen F Warrington All posts by this member | 3 of 18 Sun 17th Jan 2016 1:23pm Moderator: Joined Mar 2013 Total posts:2583 Hi Betula56,
That is a great find. While it’s a popular spot for images, I don’t think it’s exactly like anything I’ve seen before (I'll check). It could be a view from half way along Barrs Lane but I suspect that it’s from a track way that ran from Barrs (now Barras) Lane to Hill Street. A place on the map called Falting Stile is quite likely.
Cash’s commissioned etchings which then went on to be turned into woven pieces, I’m guessing through the Jacquard process. Another name for it was the Stevengraph. Searching those areas might tell you more about this image and who might have created it.
About Cash's
Again, well done rescuing it! ![]() |
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Dreamtime Perth Western Australia All posts by this member | 4 of 18 Sun 17th Jan 2016 3:32pm Member: Joined Jan 2010 Total posts:3477 I am amazed that someone could have left that print at a tip. ![]() |
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Annewiggy Tamworth All posts by this member | 5 of 18 Sun 17th Jan 2016 6:04pm Member: Joined Jan 2013 Total posts:1833 Lovely picture, what a find in a tip. I can't make up my mind if the strip across the middle of the picture is water as there is cattle in the middle of it, just wondered if it was Naul's Mill.
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Betula56 Moreton in Marsh All posts by this member Thread starter | 6 of 18 Mon 18th Jan 2016 9:19am Member: Joined Jan 2016 Total posts:9 Hi again, thank you for the replies! I think Helen F is on the money with the suggested location of the artist. Probably somewhere along the lines I have drawn on the 1750 map (provided by British Historic Towns Atlas) though it doesn't seem to entirely hang together. I suppose we have to allow for a little artistic licence, which may well have been endorsed.
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Betula56 Moreton in Marsh All posts by this member Thread starter | 7 of 18 Tue 19th Jan 2016 8:50am Member: Joined Jan 2016 Total posts:9 I have not quite got the hang of this posting lark yet!!
However, the pictures below by David Gee 1849 and JMW Turner 1833 have a similar view point to the 'mystery engraving'.
The Turner is on the newly-contructed Holyhead Road, I think.
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Betula56 Moreton in Marsh All posts by this member Thread starter | 8 of 18 Tue 19th Jan 2016 8:51am Member: Joined Jan 2016 Total posts:9 Both of these pictures have what would appear to be a toll house. If it is, is it the same one? They are roughly 16 years apart.
Turnpike.org mentions a toll house, at SP3279 (an area 1km square)
Does anyone have any info?
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Midland Red Cherwell All posts by this member | 9 of 18 Tue 19th Jan 2016 9:29am Moderator: Joined Jan 2010 Total posts:5603 The Turner engraving already has its own thread here ![]() |
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Annewiggy Tamworth All posts by this member | 10 of 18 Tue 19th Jan 2016 4:32pm Member: Joined Jan 2013 Total posts:1833 This must have been the Saint John's Church Gate which was removed in 1844 and the tolls then collected at Allesley Gates.
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Betula56 Moreton in Marsh All posts by this member Thread starter | 11 of 18 Tue 19th Jan 2016 7:31pm Member: Joined Jan 2016 Total posts:9 Here is a list of 'lost' Coventry tollhouses. The Spon End one is a likely candidate for the Turner & Gee pictures. I have seen it suggested on other forums that the location for that tollhouse is the junction of Barrs Lane and Holyhead Road, and the fun on 'Lammas day' took place at what is now the Days, or Aston Court, Hotel.
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Betula56 Moreton in Marsh All posts by this member Thread starter | 13 of 18 Wed 20th Jan 2016 9:45am Member: Joined Jan 2016 Total posts:9 I thought it was a recipe from 'BBC Good Food'. Life on the turnpike was never easy.
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Betula56 Moreton in Marsh All posts by this member Thread starter | 15 of 18 Thu 21st Jan 2016 12:12pm Member: Joined Jan 2016 Total posts:9 St John's Gate. This is just a small extract from a much larger document, it is tiresome reading, might that have been their intention?
The thing that caught my attention was the 'half a mile from St John's' and 'new road' would fit the bill concerning the Turner picture?
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