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argon
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136 of 171  Thu 29th Aug 2019 5:23pm  
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Interesting NY, in that directory for 1912 there are two ironmongers next to each other. Fletcher at no.16, Mattersons at no.17. I wonder if they were associated businesses.

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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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137 of 171  Fri 30th Aug 2019 9:50am  
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Argon, Yes but they were different ironmongers if I remember rightly, one sold agriculture items and one domestic items. But this was the beauty of the Burges, several menswear, each specialising in some item or other, several footwear shops, the milliners, ladies hats - on the other side were a number of watch shops. All had something different on offer, and of course the ladies, if they didn’t like the owner, then? But to me it looks 1938/9ish. These photo's conjure up some story, like the lad that went to work in that Dunn’s shop, 1950's, after being left at the top of the tl ladder over a roaring fire with the fire brigade.
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argon
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138 of 171  Fri 30th Aug 2019 3:01pm  
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Kaga, Thank you , with the two businesses being adjacent I was puzzled but of course if they had different specializations it makes sense. Thumbs up
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NeilsYard
Coventry
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139 of 171  Mon 23rd Sep 2019 1:48pm  
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Technically the photographer is standing in Bishop Street however terrific image looking along Burges at the corner with Well Street - pre Corporation Street. Very rare to see those properties on the corner of Well Street/Bishop Street at that time and in such detail - Rob does have this one in the collection but this is a bigger clearer copy. You can see those buildings in the middle here that went for clearance in Rob’s shot (old Grammar school on the very right to help identify location) Edited by member, 23rd Sep 2019 1:51 pm
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Heathite
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140 of 171  Mon 23rd Sep 2019 2:25pm  
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Is this the area Neil, Barrack Square 1926?
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Midland Red
Cherwell
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141 of 171  Tue 1st Oct 2019 2:10pm  
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On 23rd Sep 2019 1:48pm, NeilsYard said: Edited by member, 23rd Sep 2019 1:51 pm
Love the second one, Neil Thumbs up Fancy putting those buildings right in the middle of Corporation Street Lol
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Kaga simpson
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142 of 171  Tue 1st Oct 2019 2:37pm  
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Barrack Square was off Hertford St or thereabouts.
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NeilsYard
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143 of 171  Tue 1st Oct 2019 3:50pm  
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They are off Rob’s Library Images, Cliff - bizzare though isn't it that they left them standing whilst Corporation Street was going in and even whilst they built the Wine Lodge/Tally Ho which you can see on the left?!
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Helen F
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144 of 171  Tue 1st Oct 2019 4:37pm  
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While the householders seem to have been moved on quite quickly, the businesses lingered till the last moment. A lot of pubs were along that stretch of Bishop Street and the south side of Well Street. Palmer Lane, Ironmonger Row and Butcher Row were being cleared at roughly the same time. The beer drinkers must have been in shock.
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NeilsYard
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145 of 171  Wed 27th Nov 2019 5:45pm  
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I don't think this has been shared before - Burges Conservation Area Townscape Heritage Project. Some excellent images (FYI it’s quite a large PDF). Edited by member, 27th Nov 2019 5:45 pm
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NeilsYard
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146 of 171  Thu 13th Feb 2020 9:44am  
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Going back a bit but looking at Osmiroid’s postcard in post #14 - does anyone know what that Coat of Arms is top right corner? The Fire Insurance maps have that building as being Liptons? *EDIT* actually think I may have it - Liptons were awarded the Royal Warrant from Edward VII (1841-1910) by 1907." I reckon that's it. Edited by member, 13th Feb 2020 10:04 am
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Kaga simpson
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147 of 171  Fri 14th Feb 2020 1:23pm  
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Liptons went out of business in 1931, sold to 'Home and Colonial', think it was knocked down in '36 and went to the first Owens a few years later?
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Helen F
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148 of 171  Fri 14th Feb 2020 3:50pm  
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If you search for old Lipton tins, some of them show the Royal Warrant for King George V, who died in 1936, so it all ties in. Yes, Kaga, it was demolished to build Owens.
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NeilsYard
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149 of 171  Fri 14th Feb 2020 4:10pm  
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Yes that all came from this 1906 photo and someone asking on FB what the Coat of Arms was - Guessing it was newly erected as they were proudly showing it off!
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Kaga simpson
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150 of 171  Sat 15th Feb 2020 12:24pm  
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Yes Helen but he also had royal warrants from Queen Victoria and Edward VII. He had many Tea plantations in Ceylon, cut out the middle man, would have met Leonard Wolfe, Governor (husband of Virginia Wolfe). Somewhere close to that spot in the Burges was a house/shop that held a grouping of stone statues of Christ and his disciples, each in a canopied niche - Christ the centre one. The sculptor displayed his humour and abhorrence by leaving the end one, intended for Judas, vacant. Seems to have been brought from the altar of St Mary's Cathedral on the dissolution of the Priory, time of Henry the VIII. Helen do you know if the Burges was closed, or the trams stopped in 1936, during the building? I think not.
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