Fleet Street

Pretty sure we have seen this one before but added due to its clarity - mods move if desired. However I think this shows the backs of properties on Fleet Street looking over to the clearance for Corporation Street in 1926. I have an idea the photographer may have been standing on the roof of a building, possibly in Conduit Yard?

Helen F, Your post 59, on the right, the large house you see before the Precinct, this side of the recess you can just see a little building, this was the Casino Cafe, a temp building. Like all the other buildings it had a limited time, but it did open till 9pm, and was a great meeting place for young people to meet on that side of town.

On the second morning after the Blitz (Sat) I stood at the top of Smithford Street up to my knees in rubble. Looking down the street there were twisted iron girders across the street, one had torn a house in half. Two decades after, I often wondered, was the Casino Cafe the house that had been torn in two? After the rescuers came the army to sift and sort out the rubble and clear it. Of course, being a child there was a lot I didn't understand, but the soldiers unearthed a few bits of pages of singed material that had funny writing on it, and some kind of inlaid badge. My dad didn't know. I asked someone, it had been something called a visitors book of the King's Head. I threw it on the ground and a soldier shovelled it into the lorry with the rubble.

A similar shot probably taken at the same time of post#53 at the junction where Fleet Street met Smithford Street - just looking slightly further west at bomb damage -

Great photo. The advertising board below H Bass's offers "Palmistry and Clairvoyance"!

I know Rob has already seen this but how about this for a strange one. John Miles posted this one on FB recently. We think it’s a fake/mock-up comparison despite the Telegraph not actually declaring it as so - it’s noticeable by the railings on show on the right upper compared to other images already out there where those railings are not there yet but the whole area which is/was to become the Lower Precinct has already been cleared. What I am really interested in though is the origin, and as it seems to be a cut down photo, the full image of the older buildings shown on the left. Despite the paper alluding they are the rears of buildings on Smithford Street, most here probably already know that not much beyond where the ramp was built at Ram bridge it became Fleet Street after the West Orchard junction. So are they actually Fleet Street rears? Side by Side map comparison says they should be if the location is correct. Edited by member, 18th Jan 2021 11:34 am

NeilsYard. Well as far as I know Fleet Street and Smithford Street were all one, same as High Street and Earl Street. In fact weren't they all one in coaching days? They were widened in about 1828 when Broadgate became widened and before the bank was there. They had the right of way, not Hertford Street.

I think that it might be a genuine photo Neil. The bit on the left, I think is the back of the south side of Fleet Street, opposite the City Arms. Note the pole. BFA link The different alignments of the Precinct and Smithford/Fleet Street account for the odd conjunction. We do know that they completed the south side first.

Helen. Fleet Street, the west side of the Precinct wasn't completed for five/six years after the east side, maybe more, for I left in 1961.

Yes Kaga, that would tie in with this picture from 1953 as they were working towards the west end. BFA looking east You can see how the Precinct will miss the old line of Fleet Street.

The thing is this one is dated 1958 as well? Note the upper fancy railings have not been built but any old buildings in the way of lower precinct have already been cleared?

The photo above might be January, where the other is September. The old buildings were off to the right.

We know from this picture that they were building the cafe while those buildings still stood.

I'm with NY on this one, immediately I saw the FB photo it looked like a mock-up! Such a straight line dividing the two sides no boarding to shield the shoppers. Later on they always put up shuttering. However the only other things I could see was the upper railings to the left-hand side have been scratched or whitened out. And the photographer is standing really far back in post 72, you would think he would have interference with the older buildings in the way!