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Hector1
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331 of 338  Thu 23rd Nov 2017 3:54pm  
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Whilst I am aware that Sweden supplied Germany with essential iron ore during the war, I was not aware that at any stage it had fallen to Germany. I do know it was an escape route for many fleeing the Nazis. Interesting posts on this subject.
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smiler
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332 of 338  Thu 23rd Nov 2017 5:16pm  
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On Monday 27th November at 7:10 a.m. there is a programme about the Coventry Blitz on Freeview channel 48
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Kaga simpson
Peacehaven, East Sussex
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333 of 338  Thu 23rd Nov 2017 5:34pm  
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Hector1, Sweden was far from the war in Europe - although you could say it was a neutral country it did supply iron ore to Germany's war machine. They did not have to march in, they were already there. Apart from the iron ore it was an Arctic wasteland. I don't think it was any threat or use to the war, certainly it did not interest me back in the fifties. Norway was more important for Germany, could use her three big ports, but the war was about France, Holland and Belgium, and England, for Russia at that time had a pact with Germany and supplied her with oil.
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Kaga simpson
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334 of 338  Fri 24th Nov 2017 1:46pm  
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In 1940 the German army outnumbered all the other countries put together - men, machines, tanks and planes etc. He simply overan most. Hitting us in a weak spot he was able to encircle us like a vice and hit us from every side, apart from that little corridor the French and the BEF were being annihilated. Had BEF been wiped out we would have come to terms the same as the French did. We had nothing to fight with, and no real army left, there would have been no choice. This is not defeatist talk, 'plain historical fact' - we would have formed a Vichy Government same as France. At that time every village, every town, in the USA had bold placards displayed 'Keep us out of Europe's War'. Roosevelt asked for our Navy. But Dunkirk was a miracle, and Hitler saw us as a little island, still no danger, as long as he kept our factories from producing war materials (BLITZ time). He turned his army, scrapped the Russian pact, to drive out Communism. Around the 1990's a lot of material was released that squashed a lot of our myths, we now have a better picture of what went on. But no matter how you see it, that May month changed not only Europe but the whole world. (feedback?)
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Kaga simpson
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335 of 338  Sat 25th Nov 2017 11:20am  
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Smiler, So did you see that Blitz programme? There was one scene showing a poster on a wall, the headlines "Never Again" - well there were scores of those posters around Coventry, I believe the days after Dunkirk, and thousands throughout the country. Reminders of 1914, morale had dropped from optimism to pessimism.
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336 of 338  Sat 25th Nov 2017 5:30pm  
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Will be watching the one on Monday 27th as I have set it to be recorded
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Kaga simpson
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337 of 338  Sun 26th Nov 2017 11:41am  
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Dreamtime, then a few more facts you were to young to know. The government and the military top brass were ex-public schoolboys with their rivalry, jealousy and favouritism. The government went to war against Germany because it invaded Poland. But when Russia invaded east Poland Britain did nothing against Russia. Britain needed Russia to beat the Nazis, and needed Germany to beat the Communist spread. 'A Comic Opera'. Britain had a secret service, MI5, made up of ex-public schoolboys, but a number were Russian spies - Philby etc. - so Moscow knew everything that Britain knew. A new branch was formed for decoding - Bletchley Park - also old public school, with jealousy, so they didn't tell MI5 everything they knew. But most of the decoding was too late to be put into operation, like Pearl Harbour. Russia also had spies in every top American important place including the space programme, so Russia knew every detail as it happened, so their own people improved on it and won the space race with the first man to orbit the earth.
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Dreamtime
Perth Western Australia
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338 of 338  Sun 26th Nov 2017 1:06pm  
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Thanks Kaga Put it together and what have you got - a good TV series. I do remember the Philby and Co affair though and talking of TV I found the Bletchley Park series most interesting. I like a bit of intrigue, beats all the Soaps. The trouble is they may be good productions but how do we tell the truth from fiction. The reality of the Blitz is a far cry from what we are shown on the screen. Thumbs up Edited by member, 26th Nov 2017 1:13 pm
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