New House, Radford or Keresley

While looking for the location of Mr Wright's house my sister kindly offered to look at the items held by the British Library about Coventry and Mr Wright's house raffle in particular. She took photos of the 1731 South Prospect at the same time and when she sent them to me she threw me a bit of a curve ball. She said 'did you notice the big house on the skyline with the number 2 that in the key is 'New House'? I confess I hadn't noticed it at all Might it be the house I was looking for as the advert said the house was new. Perhaps the map was merely an artists impression by someone who didn't know what it was going to look like and had just put something in to indicate where the new house was going to be? It seemed annoyingly plausible. The top picture is a rough blow up of the house on the Hill. The picture below that is labelled New House Radford (search in the library pictures for 3 images of the house). A much better fit than Mr Wright's house give or take the Tudor tower with the cupola. The 3 Tudor wings were built in 1576 by John Hales, the son of the nephew (also John Hales) of the original John Hales who acquired the land from the priories. The third wing was built in about 1700, in time to be captured in the South Prospect. The house was owned by a number of people. New House was sold in the early 17th century to Sir Richard Burnaby. It passed through the hands of a Mr. Cooke, of Sir Christopher Yelverton, who was the owner of it in 1640, and of George Bohun, and by 1730 had descended to Gilbert Clarke, husband of Bohun's daughter, Susan. The house was demolished in 1778 and another erected on the site; in the early 19th century this was owned and occupied by a Mr Joseph Smith and then possibly passed to his son Mr Joseph [II] Smith or maybe George Eld Smith? After which I don't know what happened to it. The pictures indicate the house stood back from the corner of 'The Coventry Road' and 'The road to Whitmore Park' and the new wing would have faced SSE in keeping with the South Prospect. Exactly which roads these were is debatable. The documentation calls the house Newhouse Keresley in a number of records it's referred to as Hales Place. Wherever it is, it must have been visible from the south of the city. The question is - where was it? Edited by member, 22nd Jun 2019 6:00 pm

David McGrory mentions this house in his book "The Illustrated History of Coventry Suburbs". He describes it as facing the Keresley Road, surrounded by formal gardens decorated with classic statues. It had 150 windows with views of the gardens and surrounding countyside including an area on the north side called "The Wilderness" and the three spires in the south (so must have been fairly high up. I have a copy of the map of the South Prospect 1731 and the house marked no.2 does have a lot of Windows!). That house was demolished in 1778 and he says an advert in 1779 in the Coventry Mercury had materials of the house for sale (Neil, another source for the ARBOUR?). McGrory then says that all that remained after the demolition were the Keresley Road entrance pillars surmounted by balls. Later a small "comfortable" residence was built which belonged to the Hopkins and Smith families until 1816. Later Abraham Barbery Herbert acquired it, enlarged it and renamed it "Moat House". This building was demolished in the late 1920's and housing sprang up. I am sure I have read somewhere that it was near the junction of Tamworth Road and the Keresley Road just past the Old Shepherd and the grass area that comes to a V between the 2 roads is something to do with it. I have copied the picture from his book but will remove it shortly. The side of the house looks more like the drawing on the map.

Surprisingly this 1899 map shows the Moat House more south than I thought, more on the junction of Brownshill Green Road and Radford Road, just after what we used to call the High Mounts on the Radford Road.

Even better, 1912

My thanks Anne. It was one of the places I thought it could be but it's a bit further out than I thought it could still be seen. It ties in with the references to it being a Keresley rather than Radford.

I was pleased to find the info Helen, I have always wondered where the New House was. As I said I always thought it was a little further north. I could not imagine how such a large place could disappear but looking at the housing that was built there it is easy to see. I have never really thought where Radford finishes and Keresley starts but now I know! It must have been a lovely place then.

Just doing a Google search for New House I came across this site. Coventry and Warwickshire Astronomical Society It actually has a picture of a map showing New House, but will also be of interest to anyone interested in things astronomical.

I don't think that the house on the hill can be that New House. It would be too far away.

I always found New House references to it being in Keresley.

To confirm (I hope) what you've shown on the maps above, I'm pretty sure that on a walkabout some years ago with David McGrory, he pointed to this location on Google Maps as the place where New House once stood. (I've just remembered to check in his 2011 Then & Now book, and indeed that is the location.)

That is exactly where I would have put it Rob, and the answer to Prof’s question is that is where Radford ends and Keresley begins. I have only just realised that as what I have always thought of Keresley is actually Keresley Village. In my teens I went to a party on the Keresley Road in house a young man had inherited from his parents. He also owned another house on that corner, I can’t remember exactly what was there but the houses were pulled down to build those flats, that would have been in the 1960’s.

Sorted The next questions then are - could a house in that location be seen from where the South Prospect was drawn? Was it drawn in as artistic license? Was it a different house? If so, what was it?

I think there must be a lot of artistic licence on these prospect maps. I can’t think of anywhere in the south that all of that would be visible. Would the whole of St Michael's and Holy Trinity be visible like that. Looking at the picture Spon Street is going off to the left from Bablake Church and Spon Gate. Above that is another row of trees which could be Holyhead Road, there is a windmill marked which is probably the one at Allesley which puts New House in the right direction. I think it was the only important house in the area at that time, would you have another one at that time. It does also say there were good views from the windows and they could see the spires. It is difficult to imagine a large house on its own in that position as it is so built up as it is now but it has my vote Helen

I'm not sure what could be seen. The landscape now is very different. If you think, the ring road is taller than... well it's probably taller than St Mary's Hall and would dwarf the old city wall. Even ignoring the taller buildings, an ordinary 2 storey is taller than the average house when the panorama was created. There are even more trees. Sightlines are no more. Originally there was a bump to the south of the railway station I think. I suppose if I pulled my finger out and created the raw landscape for the 3D model I'd know what could be seen. Edited by member, 23rd Jun 2019 6:53 pm

Imagine the following pictures with a lot fewer trees and buildins.